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Blaming human nature on capitalism? Is this something that magically doesn't happen in top down managed economies? Care to point us to an non-capitalistic eco

Blaming human nature on capitalism? Is this something that magically doesn't happen in top down managed economies? Care to point us to an non-capitalistic economy where this type of irrational behaviour doesn't happen?

db48x 4y ago
It is the popular fad to be ignorant of the rampant mismanagement that is always prevalent in Communist countries. People should read the books written by people who defected from the Soviet Union to get an idea of just how bad it can get. “The Liberators: my life in the Soviet Army” by Viktor Suvorov is a good one. And it can be read online: <https://archive.org/details/liberatorsmylife0000suvo https://archive.org/details/liberatorsmylife0000suvo>
- trasz 4y ago
  >Communist https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma “Not capitalist” does not mean “communist”. There are plenty other systems out there. And even for what many folks call communism you’ll find examples of much better efficiency - China for example has been developing at speed never seen in nominally capitalist countries.
  - ps901 4y ago
    China is in fact a capitalist country, despite the "Communist" in it's party's name.
    - db48x 4y ago
      Partly. Most of the Chinese people have no private property rights.
  - twh270 4y ago
    Much better efficiency - sure, if you don't believe in ghost cities and ignore the real estate hyper-bubble (which is certain to come crashing down).
    - trasz 4y ago
      So objective, easily verifiable gains - like the life expectancy, which is now longer than in USA - don't matter because of ghost towns? :-D
  - tsol 4y ago
    What are the other systems that are actually being used?
    - kleer001 4y ago
      barter at the very small scale some top down goes on it troubled countries but by far and away the advantages of capitalism are more than its deficits it responds to and is driven by human natures, not the other way around

db48x 4y ago

It is the popular fad to be ignorant of the rampant mismanagement that is always prevalent in Communist countries. People should read the books written by people who defected from the Soviet Union to get an idea of just how bad it can get. “The Liberators: my life in the Soviet Army” by Viktor Suvorov is a good one. And it can be read online: <https://archive.org/details/liberatorsmylife0000suvo https://archive.org/details/liberatorsmylife0000suvo>

trasz 4y ago
>Communist https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma “Not capitalist” does not mean “communist”. There are plenty other systems out there. And even for what many folks call communism you’ll find examples of much better efficiency - China for example has been developing at speed never seen in nominally capitalist countries.
- ps901 4y ago
  China is in fact a capitalist country, despite the "Communist" in it's party's name.
  - db48x 4y ago
    Partly. Most of the Chinese people have no private property rights.
- twh270 4y ago
  Much better efficiency - sure, if you don't believe in ghost cities and ignore the real estate hyper-bubble (which is certain to come crashing down).
  - trasz 4y ago
    So objective, easily verifiable gains - like the life expectancy, which is now longer than in USA - don't matter because of ghost towns? :-D
- tsol 4y ago
  What are the other systems that are actually being used?
  - kleer001 4y ago
    barter at the very small scale some top down goes on it troubled countries but by far and away the advantages of capitalism are more than its deficits it responds to and is driven by human natures, not the other way around