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> heavy use mostly doesn't apply to solid-state devices Sorry, but this is pretty much incorrect. Copper migrates, even in solid state devices, and those coppe
by falcolas 4y ago
> heavy use mostly doesn't apply to solid-state devices
Sorry, but this is pretty much incorrect. Copper migrates, even in solid state devices, and those copper migrations cause breaks and shorts, which cause errors and failures. The smaller the scale, the faster this happens. There is absolutely a MTBF even for solid-state devices.
This entire slide deck is worth the perusal, if only for the "whoah, that actually happens?!" moments. But here's a relevant slide for this claim:
https://c3.ndc.nasa.gov/dashlink/static/media/other/ObservedFailures37.html https://c3.ndc.nasa.gov/dashlink/static/media/other/Observed...
The money quote: "Commercial semiconductor road maps show component reliability timescales are being reduced to 5-7 years." (with attribution)
Another fascinating slide is this one, which shows how an IC can start to have a timing issue after being in service for a time.
https://c3.ndc.nasa.gov/dashlink/static/media/other/ObservedFailures35.html https://c3.ndc.nasa.gov/dashlink/static/media/other/Observed...
- latchkey 4y agoWe've definitely seen 'memory go bad'. But, our failure rate is in the single digits, across a huge sample set across multiple years and in relatively extreme conditions (4 seasons, outdoors). If you're buying something for like half of retail and rolling the dice on it, I think it is a fair bet. Even if you only get 1-2 more years out of a card that has been used before (for any purpose), then you've done well.
- d_tr 4y agoHalf of retail (which is still high) for a mining card with expired warranty? No thanks.
- latchkey 4y agoOk, $10, but you have to pay for shipping and min order is 10k. ;-) For clarity, because @derac is confused below... this is a joke. Hence the winky face.
- derac 4y agoYour incentive is to propagandize this point. you have 100k+ cards to sell on the market, by your own admission.
- latchkey 4y agoIt is amazing how crazy HN can get. I'm not propagandizing anything. If we sell them for pennies on the dollar or e-waste them, doesn't matter to me. We ROI'd these cards already.
- derac 4y agoWhoa crazy to point out someone's conflict of interest. CrAzY You are sitting on 10m+ of stock and you don't care about the money. OK bud guess I must be schizophrenic, damn. You are literally trying to sell your cards to a sister comment... "Ok, $10, but you have to pay for shipping and min order is 10k. ;-)"
- latchkey 4y agoThere is no conflict of interest, I'm not trying to sell cards here on HN. You are literally making stuff up now. The 10m+ of stock is worthless if nobody would buy it. If anything, it'll cost us to e-waste it. So, the price ceiling, if we were to sell it, is simply the cost e-waste and moving it around. That was a winky face... a joke. I was kidding because the OP was unhappy with the statement of half price, which I also made up as a random baseline.
- derac 4y agoThe goal is changing the public discourse. Thus the word propaganda. You wouldn't be propagandizing this point of view if you didn't think you would change people's minds. You are fully aware that this forum has an outsized influence on the tech/programming community. Edit: to me it's clear that you are acting in bad faith since you called me crazy for pointing out an obvious conflict of interest.
- uhhyeahdude 4y agoThanks for that slide deck! Many treasures to be found within.
- falcolas 4y agoAny time I share it, I go through it again. It's so dang fun.