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I prefer Angular. I never could accept writing css/html in my javascript. To be fair, my background is from XAML, so declaring the state separately and simply b

by rafale 4y ago

I prefer Angular. I never could accept writing css/html in my javascript. To be fair, my background is from XAML, so declaring the state separately and simply binding to it in my html template felt natural. The whole functional approach in React is overkill imo. It's okay if the state mutates in 90% of scenarios. Where there is really benefit from immutable states, I can enforce that on my own.

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xtracto 4y ago
Yes yes yes! I´ve done some React at my job and also done some Angular/Ionic before. What I never understood of React is why did the creators decided to throw DECADES of Software Engineering development and comingle presentation layer with logic... To separate Views from Logics was an agreed good practice in Software Engineering since I was in undergard school 20 years ago.
- vlunkr 4y ago
  I disagree that React is doing anything controversial actually. Angular has logic in it's views, what do you think the handlebars syntax is? The only difference is that they added new syntax to JS instead of adding new syntax to HTML. And how much logic you put into a component is up to you. Your components can be almost entirely view logic, with any other data fetching or computation offloaded to other regular js files.
- javcasas 4y ago
  That's fair. Why write html in javascript, when you can write shitty javascript in the templates (via ng-if and ng-for)?
- chrisco255 4y ago
  Because you will inevitably need to use control flow, conditional rendering, and computed values in your components. And creating proprietary HTML syntax (ie ngIf) to cross reference variables defined in the JS anyways. So why not use JS and gain access to powerful array manipulation, ternary operators, map/reduce/filter functionality, etc instead of leaning on an inferior template syntax?
- yCombLinks 4y ago
  I actually much prefer how react handles this, I think this very early react talk makes a very good point https://youtu.be/x7cQ3mrcKaY?t=183 https://youtu.be/x7cQ3mrcKaY?t=183

by rafale 4y ago

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xtracto 4y ago

Yes yes yes! I´ve done some React at my job and also done some Angular/Ionic before. What I never understood of React is why did the creators decided to throw DECADES of Software Engineering development and comingle presentation layer with logic... To separate Views from Logics was an agreed good practice in Software Engineering since I was in undergard school 20 years ago.

vlunkr 4y ago
I disagree that React is doing anything controversial actually. Angular has logic in it's views, what do you think the handlebars syntax is? The only difference is that they added new syntax to JS instead of adding new syntax to HTML. And how much logic you put into a component is up to you. Your components can be almost entirely view logic, with any other data fetching or computation offloaded to other regular js files.
javcasas 4y ago
That's fair. Why write html in javascript, when you can write shitty javascript in the templates (via ng-if and ng-for)?
chrisco255 4y ago
Because you will inevitably need to use control flow, conditional rendering, and computed values in your components. And creating proprietary HTML syntax (ie ngIf) to cross reference variables defined in the JS anyways. So why not use JS and gain access to powerful array manipulation, ternary operators, map/reduce/filter functionality, etc instead of leaning on an inferior template syntax?
yCombLinks 4y ago
I actually much prefer how react handles this, I think this very early react talk makes a very good point https://youtu.be/x7cQ3mrcKaY?t=183 https://youtu.be/x7cQ3mrcKaY?t=183