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They do have a threat score https://developers.cloudflare.com/firewall/recipes/block-ip-reputation/ https://developers.cloudflare.com/firewall/recipes/block-ip

They do have a threat score https://developers.cloudflare.com/firewall/recipes/block-ip-reputation/ https://developers.cloudflare.com/firewall/recipes/block-ip-... I was surprised to learn Cloudflare was born out of Project Honeypot, so I am guessing Cloudflare does share data with them: https://www.projecthoneypot.org/cloudflare_beta.html https://www.projecthoneypot.org/cloudflare_beta.html

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elcomet 4y ago
FYI you're responding to the cloudflare CTO
- trasz 4y ago
  It’s naive to assume Cloudflare CTO would not be lying if beneficial to him or Cloudflare.
  - Veen 4y ago
    It's even more naive to assume Cloudflare's CTO would tell lies that can be trivially shown to be untrue.
    - pessimizer 4y ago
    - trasz 4y ago
      How would you show they are untrue? Ask? :-D
  - elcomet 4y ago
    I don't assume anything. The previous comment was just trying to teach something about cloudflare to its CTO
  - nemothekid 4y ago
    I wonder if HN posters have ever held a job before. Can you explain why it's beneficial for Cloudflare to block legitimate users? Why is the simplest explanation "Cloudflare just hates this one user in particular?"
    - lmm 4y ago
      Well, apparently they scared this user into installing their browser extension, so it sounds like this incident was a win for them.
      - Sebb767 4y ago
        And they also got them to write a blog post, giving massively negative press on HN. I doubt his PII (assuming they collect it) is worth the trouble this thread is causing.
      - webmobdev 4y ago
        That is indeed their goal - this kind of targeted harassment is done deliberately to collect more personal data of the user. This tactic is quite common among BigTech and something I've experienced with both Google and Amazon - once you are hooked onto their product, one day they will suddenly deny some aspect of their service to you and force you to share more personal data with them to get access to it. For example, Amazon will one day start to ask you to click a link sent to your mobile to access their account, or Google or Microsoft will block your account and ask you for your mobile number to "verify" you etc. When you are blocked from using a service suddenly, however privacy conscious you are, in your desperation you will be forced to comply. I have experienced this with CloudFlare too once when many website were suddenly blocked for me by CloudFlare on all browsers and I was forced to install their extension to access some information I needed from a website urgently. I have no doubt in my mind that even otherwise, they just deliberately and randomly blocked access to some sites and displayed their "captcha" page just for PR and "brand awareness". Now that CloudFlare has realised this is backfiring on them because of the negative emotions being associated with their brand, they have now redesigned their "captcha harassment" page to give less prominence to their branding than before.

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elcomet 4y ago

FYI you're responding to the cloudflare CTO

trasz 4y ago
It’s naive to assume Cloudflare CTO would not be lying if beneficial to him or Cloudflare.
- Veen 4y ago
  It's even more naive to assume Cloudflare's CTO would tell lies that can be trivially shown to be untrue.
  - pessimizer 4y ago
  - trasz 4y ago
    How would you show they are untrue? Ask? :-D
- elcomet 4y ago
  I don't assume anything. The previous comment was just trying to teach something about cloudflare to its CTO
- nemothekid 4y ago
  I wonder if HN posters have ever held a job before. Can you explain why it's beneficial for Cloudflare to block legitimate users? Why is the simplest explanation "Cloudflare just hates this one user in particular?"
  - lmm 4y ago
    Well, apparently they scared this user into installing their browser extension, so it sounds like this incident was a win for them.
    - Sebb767 4y ago
      And they also got them to write a blog post, giving massively negative press on HN. I doubt his PII (assuming they collect it) is worth the trouble this thread is causing.
    - webmobdev 4y ago
      That is indeed their goal - this kind of targeted harassment is done deliberately to collect more personal data of the user. This tactic is quite common among BigTech and something I've experienced with both Google and Amazon - once you are hooked onto their product, one day they will suddenly deny some aspect of their service to you and force you to share more personal data with them to get access to it. For example, Amazon will one day start to ask you to click a link sent to your mobile to access their account, or Google or Microsoft will block your account and ask you for your mobile number to "verify" you etc. When you are blocked from using a service suddenly, however privacy conscious you are, in your desperation you will be forced to comply. I have experienced this with CloudFlare too once when many website were suddenly blocked for me by CloudFlare on all browsers and I was forced to install their extension to access some information I needed from a website urgently. I have no doubt in my mind that even otherwise, they just deliberately and randomly blocked access to some sites and displayed their "captcha" page just for PR and "brand awareness". Now that CloudFlare has realised this is backfiring on them because of the negative emotions being associated with their brand, they have now redesigned their "captcha harassment" page to give less prominence to their branding than before.