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I’ve read a few of pg’s articles over the years. I believe it was one about nerdy kids and their relationships and worldviews that first brought me to this site
by avg_dev 4y ago
I’ve read a few of pg’s articles over the years. I believe it was one about nerdy kids and their relationships and worldviews that first brought me to this site. At some point, I read the article “Hackers and Painters” and I felt like pg’s essays didn’t resonate with me anymore. I even read a response called “Dabblers and Blowhards” that I resonated strongly with. I thought to myself, pg is distanced from reality, and that perhaps I was or had been as well.
Over the past year or so I’ve been trying to make sure that my opinions are mindfully and consciously held. I’ve worked on debugging them: I test and evaluate my beliefs when the opportunity arises. I try to make sure I still feel what I think I feel and that I understand what is going on in my head and my heart, and that they act congruently.
For instance, I know now that I dislike many, many things that Amazon has done and how it treats its workers. But I think that the people who worked on my Kindle Oasis have the utmost respect for their users. It makes me somewhat comfortable with the ambivalence that for me goes along with using it. For I surely love my Kindle and I surely am happy to purchase books on the Kindle store while I simultaneously am disgusted by the treatment of factory workers, delivery drivers, software developers, and other real human beings who work for Amazon. I could say the same about my iPhone. Sometimes I think hard about the slave labor that went into the manufacturing of the device that I am typing this message into. Should I stop using it? Maybe so. Maybe not. At the moment, I consciously choose to continue using it. It is quite possible that history will judge me quite harshly for this. But I believe that there is empathy and soul (and blood and inhumanity) in these things.
This morning I had a feeling of revulsion when I saw that pg had written another article and that it was on the front page of one of my favorite websites. I readily see the hypocrisy in this. But as I mentioned at the outset, I wanted to determine if I felt the way I most recently felt about reading his essays. So I read it with as close to an open mind as I could.
I believe that on this subject, pg knows more than I likely ever will. His users are early stage startups and he has clearly identified wide classes of issues and the ability to suss them out in the course of a brief conversation. He is able to envision founder habits changing, and recidivism of said changes. He is able to approach each situation with the mindfulness and presence that it deserves by understanding that as much as these issues fall into buckets, the circumstances surrounding them are unique, and the people involved are individuals. He is able to relate these and understand them in the context of one of the most near and dear things to my heart: cutting edge software development. He is able to see when a founder is incorrectly assessing their own situation, and he is able to guide them to a course correction. He is able to ask the founders key questions that they themselves can evaluate to understand their predicament. He is able to understand their humanity.
And he has built a whole team of partners with this ability.
Going against the grain of my prejudices and my expectations, I thought this was a fine article. I have considerably more respect for YC and pg than I did before I read it. I am more comfortable browsing this site as a result.
- malodyets 4y agoReally appreciate this thoughtful take. Thank you.
- robocat 4y agoI think I have followed a similar trajectory. I had an engineer-employee-type response to some of Paul’s hackers-and-painters essays (2004), and I still think there is a lot of wrong in some of his cherished opinions[1]. However my colleagues and I founded a company about the same time as ycombinator was founded (2005). I have a lot more respect for his opinions after watching the wild success of YC over the years: he has proven again and again that his opinions are valuable. That said, I want to quote from the link in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32917643 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32917643 : “I never hear pg talk about really any of the downsides or regrets about the startup ecosystem that he helped unleash.” . Paul’s article is a bit rah-rah (making the world better by helping found startups), and it is definitely one-eyed without the balance of what the costs are. I am definitely not arguing against progress, but I would appreciate some humble reflection on the costs to others of that progress. I admit it is very hard for me to have the self-awareness to know if I am just trying to cut down a tall poppy, or whether I am just knocking down a success, or am I subconsciously railing against somebody due to their well endowed ego. Regardless, there is a lot to learn from the essay, and I rate the knowledge he has shared as highly valuable (even if the knowledge shared is difficult for me to apply, given that I don’t run an incubator!) The most unfortunate part is that I think that the quality of comments on HN about this particular essay have been low. I suspect I am adding more low quality comments myself. [1] Example I disagree with “Intelligence wins in conversation, and thus becomes the basis of the dominance hierarchy” from http://paulgraham.com/smart.html http://paulgraham.com/smart.html — a couple of jems but mostly hard disagree with his points in that essay. Perhaps he has a different definition of intelligence, but dominance and intelligence are distinct variables (even if correlated). Maybe related to a generic comment about other programmer essay writers “you begin to notice that all the essays are an elaborate set of mirrors set up to reflect different facets of the author, in a big distributed act of participatory narcissism.” — https://idlewords.com/2005/04/dabblers_and_blowhards.htm https://idlewords.com/2005/04/dabblers_and_blowhards.htm — although that trends too far towards psychological diagnosis by comments which is really not productive (and I wouldn’t want to be on the receiving end!).