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Maybe continue reading a little…? > The concept addresses not only personal or household energy use, but the total for the whole society, including embodied en
by fuzzy2 4y ago
Maybe continue reading a little…?
> The concept addresses not only personal or household energy use, but the total for the whole society, including embodied energy, divided by the population.
Filling up my car’s gas tank once is roughly 444 kWh in fuel value alone. Add to that gas refining, logistics and whatnot.
- daneel_w 4y agoI read all of it, not just a little of it. I'm commenting on personal, immediate consumption.
- fuzzy2 4y agoBefore you edited your comment, it was purely about average consumption of grid electricity. However, that’s not even the “personal, immediate consumption”. It’s just… grid electricity. You eat. You have clothes, devices, machines that had to be made and shipped. You heat your dwelling. Everything counts. It’s sometimes hard to quantify what this means, a lot of amortization is always going on.
- daneel_w 4y agoPlease don't go on the Internet and tell other people what they meant. My comment says APARTMENT DWELLERS for a reason, to contrast with e.g. house owners, whose needs are vastly different. I edited and added/clarified with "personal immediate consumption" because either you were nitpicking or I wasn't clear enough with "apartment dwellers".
- nicoburns 4y agoThat's all very well, but the 48kw/h number you quote is not only talking about those things. Hence your comment that it's high is not very relevant. It's not so high once those other things are included.