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...because there's a plausible and uncontested rationale, unlike skin color? Men generally have more testosterone, which leads to aggression and worse impulse c

...because there's a plausible and uncontested rationale, unlike skin color? Men generally have more testosterone, which leads to aggression and worse impulse control. Nobody's talking about the reason men are 95% of police shootings because it's pretty obvious.

logicalmonster 4y ago
> ...because there's a plausible and uncontested rationale, unlike skin color? Men generally have more testosterone, which leads to aggression and worse impulse control. Why isn't it plausible that different groups are different in some ways? For instance, when it comes to testosterone, this seems to be the science. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK20759/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK20759/ > In fact, African American men have higher exposure to testosterone, the main biologically potent circulating androgen, than their Caucasian and Asian counterparts, beginning in the in utero period. African American women have testosterone levels that exceed those of Caucasian women by 50% or more in early pregnancy, an exposure that has been hypothesized to permanently alter the “gonadostat,” the hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis, in African American male offspring relative to Caucasians. African American men during young adulthood also have substantially higher circulating testosterone levels than their Caucasian counterparts (approximately 13 to 15% difference at age 20 years). Although this difference appears to dissipate with age, African American men still have slightly higher testosterone levels than Caucasians (≈3% higher) at age 40 years.
- KingMob 4y ago
  Because when it comes to race, unlike sex, it's contested. For example, here's a larger study showing NO difference in testosterone between black and white men: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17456570/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17456570/ Conversely, I've never heard of a single study anywhere claiming that women have more testosterone than men. QED
yucky 4y ago
You're right that men are far more likely to be involved in violent incidents which are likely to lead to potentially violent confrontations with police. You're also right that this difference largely explains the disparity in the percentage of people shot by police by gender. I guess the question is why people don't think that correlation holds true by race (or culture) as well. The percentages match up. For instance, white males (and black males and hispanic males) are actually over-represented as demographic cohorts who are victims of police shootings, whereas asian males and women of all races are under-represented. This tracks exactly with violent crime rates. Perhaps we should address this a gender problem more than a racial problem. At least, that's what the data tells us.

logicalmonster 4y ago

> ...because there's a plausible and uncontested rationale, unlike skin color? Men generally have more testosterone, which leads to aggression and worse impulse control. Why isn't it plausible that different groups are different in some ways? For instance, when it comes to testosterone, this seems to be the science. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK20759/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK20759/ > In fact, African American men have higher exposure to testosterone, the main biologically potent circulating androgen, than their Caucasian and Asian counterparts, beginning in the in utero period. African American women have testosterone levels that exceed those of Caucasian women by 50% or more in early pregnancy, an exposure that has been hypothesized to permanently alter the “gonadostat,” the hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis, in African American male offspring relative to Caucasians. African American men during young adulthood also have substantially higher circulating testosterone levels than their Caucasian counterparts (approximately 13 to 15% difference at age 20 years). Although this difference appears to dissipate with age, African American men still have slightly higher testosterone levels than Caucasians (≈3% higher) at age 40 years.

KingMob 4y ago
Because when it comes to race, unlike sex, it's contested. For example, here's a larger study showing NO difference in testosterone between black and white men: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17456570/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17456570/ Conversely, I've never heard of a single study anywhere claiming that women have more testosterone than men. QED

yucky 4y ago

You're right that men are far more likely to be involved in violent incidents which are likely to lead to potentially violent confrontations with police. You're also right that this difference largely explains the disparity in the percentage of people shot by police by gender. I guess the question is why people don't think that correlation holds true by race (or culture) as well. The percentages match up. For instance, white males (and black males and hispanic males) are actually over-represented as demographic cohorts who are victims of police shootings, whereas asian males and women of all races are under-represented. This tracks exactly with violent crime rates. Perhaps we should address this a gender problem more than a racial problem. At least, that's what the data tells us.