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Sell yourself into slavery— it’s definitionally non-exploitative.

• rsynnott 4y ago
  I have seem people, on this very website, unironically claim that Roman slavery was non-exploitative for that reason (this was a major source of slaves at certain points in Rome's history).
  • kelseyfrog 4y ago
    If we admit that voluntary exchanges can be exploitative then even arrangements like wage labor under capitalism would be considered exploitative.
    • ckw 4y ago
      CEOs aren’t exploited. (My actual position is more nuanced, but I think it’s irrelevant, as you must agree CEOs are not exploited).
      • kelseyfrog 4y ago
        CEOs tend to be compensated in ways that make them more than mere wage laborers so our intersection of agreement is likely much higher, yes. We can also acknowledge that stock-based compensation[RSUs], ESPP, and even 401k's(in certain, yet extremely prevalent configurations) also hybridize a fair share of workers who at the same time are income-funded through wage labor. While this makes some workers not neatly classifiable into one or the other bucket, I don't believe it necessarily invalidates the argument. We can, without even drawing a line, agree that such a line exist somewhere between the two extremes and proceed from there.
  • ckw 4y ago
    Yeah the past couple days have been pretty shocking. In another thread someone effectively evinced support for child labor (i.e., four year olds shouldn’t be prevented from sweeping chimneys).