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So did your college give you a better deal or did they just charge you for training and pay you nothing? What of people who went to a college less useful than y

So did your college give you a better deal or did they just charge you for training and pay you nothing? What of people who went to a college less useful than yours, if any, and couldn't get any other job? After two years, maybe they can step up based on having a resume.

Broken_Hippo 4y ago
The college didn't try to trick them into a job that they'd have to stay in for 2 years to avoid a fee. The person knew - upfront - that it wasn't a job. They knew upfront that they'd need to pay the college for training. They were free to take employment for income while doing schooling. Seriously, there is a difference between a college and upfront knowledge about fees and someone trying to trick you into an indentured servant "job".
- cat_plus_plus 4y ago
  OF COURSE there is a difference between an honest business transaction and being tricked. Plenty of colleges charge unreasonable sums for useless degrees while promising access to upper echelons of society. Wouldn't you rather take practically useful training while getting paid at least some money, provided you know what it will cost and what are your options to get the fee waived? I am not saying these particular cases were so rosy.
  - Broken_Hippo 4y ago
    I support "useless" degrees because I don't see education as useless, even if others don't see practical use in the degree. I'm very OK with tax money being used for things like art and music and philosophy. An educated populace helps everyone, even if you don't see the direct results of it. An educated populace is slightly more difficult to dupe, too. I find it offensive that we charge what we do for education, period, and the offer to get some of it paid of by a workplace shouldn't even be something that folks need to do. I do not ever support someone being beholden to a job because of a financial hit that extends beyond the effects of a missing paycheck, be it "good", discounted insurance or a being charged for training at a workplace for whatever reason.

Broken_Hippo 4y ago

The college didn't try to trick them into a job that they'd have to stay in for 2 years to avoid a fee. The person knew - upfront - that it wasn't a job. They knew upfront that they'd need to pay the college for training. They were free to take employment for income while doing schooling. Seriously, there is a difference between a college and upfront knowledge about fees and someone trying to trick you into an indentured servant "job".

cat_plus_plus 4y ago
OF COURSE there is a difference between an honest business transaction and being tricked. Plenty of colleges charge unreasonable sums for useless degrees while promising access to upper echelons of society. Wouldn't you rather take practically useful training while getting paid at least some money, provided you know what it will cost and what are your options to get the fee waived? I am not saying these particular cases were so rosy.
- Broken_Hippo 4y ago
  I support "useless" degrees because I don't see education as useless, even if others don't see practical use in the degree. I'm very OK with tax money being used for things like art and music and philosophy. An educated populace helps everyone, even if you don't see the direct results of it. An educated populace is slightly more difficult to dupe, too. I find it offensive that we charge what we do for education, period, and the offer to get some of it paid of by a workplace shouldn't even be something that folks need to do. I do not ever support someone being beholden to a job because of a financial hit that extends beyond the effects of a missing paycheck, be it "good", discounted insurance or a being charged for training at a workplace for whatever reason.