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A couple of US governors will be happy to provide free transportation to send migrants to those wonderful countries of yours. Sounds like a win/win proposition?

kelnos 4y ago
That's a bit of an uncharitable interpretation of what I said. I have nothing against immigration. The US was built by immigrants, and continues to be built by immigrants. My ancestors have been in the US for only a little over 100 years, and I've benefited greatly from the lack of immigration controls we had a century ago. My point was simply that the poster I originally replied to seemed to be taking the angle that the US is pretty much the only game in town if you want "social and political stability, less crime, and generally fewer risks in life" (their words). That's demonstrably untrue! Many countries other than the US provide those things, and many of them treat potential immigrants (especially those with in-demand professional qualifications) a lot better than the US government does. I can certainly understand someone wanting to move to the US, specifically, for whatever reason, but if the goal is just to move from somewhere socially/politically unstable, with lots of crime and risks to life, to somewhere that is... not that... then there are many great choices that are not the US. The reason I bring that up is because I have quite a few close friends who are in various stages of US immigration, some on H-1Bs for over a decade now, and I wouldn't wish that level of life uncertainty on anyone. They've chosen to stick it out over time until they get their green cards, but if someone is considering getting an H-1B today, especially if they are from a country with a huge green card line, I would probably try to dissuade them, as there are many other options with a great quality of life, where they wouldn't have to feel like their held hostage to the US immigration system -- and, by extension, the employer sponsoring their visa.

kelnos 4y ago

That's a bit of an uncharitable interpretation of what I said. I have nothing against immigration. The US was built by immigrants, and continues to be built by immigrants. My ancestors have been in the US for only a little over 100 years, and I've benefited greatly from the lack of immigration controls we had a century ago. My point was simply that the poster I originally replied to seemed to be taking the angle that the US is pretty much the only game in town if you want "social and political stability, less crime, and generally fewer risks in life" (their words). That's demonstrably untrue! Many countries other than the US provide those things, and many of them treat potential immigrants (especially those with in-demand professional qualifications) a lot better than the US government does. I can certainly understand someone wanting to move to the US, specifically, for whatever reason, but if the goal is just to move from somewhere socially/politically unstable, with lots of crime and risks to life, to somewhere that is... not that... then there are many great choices that are not the US. The reason I bring that up is because I have quite a few close friends who are in various stages of US immigration, some on H-1Bs for over a decade now, and I wouldn't wish that level of life uncertainty on anyone. They've chosen to stick it out over time until they get their green cards, but if someone is considering getting an H-1B today, especially if they are from a country with a huge green card line, I would probably try to dissuade them, as there are many other options with a great quality of life, where they wouldn't have to feel like their held hostage to the US immigration system -- and, by extension, the employer sponsoring their visa.