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My employer has a tuition reimbursement program. IIRC it has clawback if you leave within like 6 months. This is obviously different in that it's entirely opti
by tbrownaw 4y ago
My employer has a tuition reimbursement program. IIRC it has clawback if you leave within like 6 months.
This is obviously different in that it's entirely optional, and relatively sane rates (whatever the real university decides). But because of that clawback I could maybe see it getting caught up in a carelessly written ban.
- wombatpm 4y agoI was at a fortune 300 company that had that. They would routinely WFR the recent MBA grads who were then free and clear of any obligations. Surprise surprise they are no longer a Fortune 500 company
- thr0wawayf00 4y agoIt would be one thing if the clawback is at least fairly itemized and clearly stated up front. What's appalling about these stories is that the dollar amount is completely arbitrary and determined after the employee signs on. I passed on a job opportunity early on in my career because there was a clawback provision in my employment agreement that was very transparent and yet very brutal. I couldn't imagine taking that job and being entrapped by that clawback provision after I'd started.
- mcv 4y agoI think this sort of clawback can indeed be acceptable as long as it's completely clear what you're getting involved in, is properly itemized in a way that represents the real costs, and it only hold for a limited period that's proportional to the actual costs. My first employer told me how they once paid a very expensive (6 figure) training for someone who immediately left after finishing that training, so they introduced a clawback to prevent that in the future. I think that's reasonable, but there needs to be a balance. You shouldn't be able to lock people into shitty jobs for years just because they got some shitty training when they joined.
- julian_t 4y agoI once failed a job interview because they said that they thought I'd take the extensive training and then leave for a better paid job. TBF they were completely correct, but it was a bit of a surprise.
- jameshart 4y agoAnd you get an actual certificate or qualification from the institution, which adheres to you personally and has value beyond your current employment. The PetSmart dog grooming academy appears to have been the required training to do a job at PetSmart but have no value whatsoever outside the context of that job.