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Admitting ignorance has political impact in many organization. If you’re not playing much of the political game it’s not an issue. If you’re trying to put your

Admitting ignorance has political impact in many organization. If you’re not playing much of the political game it’s not an issue. If you’re trying to put yourself in a pedestal and gain influence without going the long way of building trust though consistent delivery, successfully getting away from situations where you have to admit powerlessness or ignorance is a valuable skill.

plurinshael 4y ago
Seems like you're describing a lack of integrity. I think it important that we remember, people / institutions / things that lack integrity tend to fall apart.
- makeitdouble 4y ago
  I think it's less black and white than that. Politics exist in every organization with more than 3 people and a lot of people, and I am not sure to agree with your point on the lack of integrity. To go to an extreme, our govs are severely lacking of integrity but aren't falling apart: there is some level of gross that will happen in any sufficiently large group, and properly navigating these situations is a valuable skill that is needed to get any decent progress inside these groups. You won't become a manager/high level clerk/elected official through sheer integrity, and these positions still need to be filled by competent people. I'm not saying everyone needs to play weird games, just that's it a complex situation with no single guideline.
  - bloqs 4y ago
    This is in my opinion, doublespeak to some degree. I used to view it this way. Ultimately our governments reward lack of integrity - the evil king rises to power faster than a good king (perhaps term limits in western democracy play a role here) but ultimately honesty and integrity will, by the nature of their immutable consistency, always eventually triumph given sufficient effort. However - in an environment owned by the dishonest this often wont be realised, particularly if the risks are too high. What we are left with IS a lack of integrity being one key to one success in these scenarios. The question is... is that the life you want to lead? Stalin existed with total control, but ultimately everyone lied to him out of fear. He was successful from a human aquiring resources perspective, but. Is that a world someone wants to live in?
    - philpem 4y ago
      Most of Stalin's subjects didn't really get a choice in the matter...

plurinshael 4y ago

Seems like you're describing a lack of integrity. I think it important that we remember, people / institutions / things that lack integrity tend to fall apart.

makeitdouble 4y ago
I think it's less black and white than that. Politics exist in every organization with more than 3 people and a lot of people, and I am not sure to agree with your point on the lack of integrity. To go to an extreme, our govs are severely lacking of integrity but aren't falling apart: there is some level of gross that will happen in any sufficiently large group, and properly navigating these situations is a valuable skill that is needed to get any decent progress inside these groups. You won't become a manager/high level clerk/elected official through sheer integrity, and these positions still need to be filled by competent people. I'm not saying everyone needs to play weird games, just that's it a complex situation with no single guideline.
- bloqs 4y ago
  This is in my opinion, doublespeak to some degree. I used to view it this way. Ultimately our governments reward lack of integrity - the evil king rises to power faster than a good king (perhaps term limits in western democracy play a role here) but ultimately honesty and integrity will, by the nature of their immutable consistency, always eventually triumph given sufficient effort. However - in an environment owned by the dishonest this often wont be realised, particularly if the risks are too high. What we are left with IS a lack of integrity being one key to one success in these scenarios. The question is... is that the life you want to lead? Stalin existed with total control, but ultimately everyone lied to him out of fear. He was successful from a human aquiring resources perspective, but. Is that a world someone wants to live in?
  - philpem 4y ago
    Most of Stalin's subjects didn't really get a choice in the matter...