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I'd pick Rust over "modern" C++ just because I don't have to deal with 15 compilers, 15 IDEs, 15 build systems, decades of language experiments, kind of compil

I'd pick Rust over "modern" C++ just because I don't have to deal with 15 compilers, 15 IDEs, 15 build systems, decades of language experiments, kind of compiler-flags driven development

41b696ef1113 4y ago
The true real win of Rust. Knowing that you are incredibly likely to be able to compile it without any hoops. Random C/C++ project can still be a roll of the dice.
- tejohnso 4y ago
  > you are incredibly likely to be able to compile it without any hoops Nice. Does that hold true for cross compiling to arm (Rpi specifically) and Android?
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thoweiruo23423 4y ago
also, know 50+ "best-use" subsets of C++.
sseagull 4y ago
Give rust a few decades and it will get there. Remember when python was simple? And you just had setuptools? Popularity breeds complexity and fragmentation.
- stackbutterflow 4y ago
  Sure. In the meantime that's a few decades of better developer experience.
  - lenkite 4y ago
    More like a few decades of extreme churn. Hey dude are you using Crate #43? No, thats dead on github. Try Crate #999. No dude that uses a diff async runtime. Try Crate #888. No dude, that has protest-ware on it and the boss complained. Try Crate #888. No dude, that has incompatible dependencies. Try Crate #456. No dude, that lib causes "fearless concurrency" deadlocks with async. Try crate #999. No dude, that has a gazillion macros and compilation times approach the heat-death of the universe. Try Crate #666...and the story goes on.
    - icybauhaus 4y ago
      Surely C++ doesn't have this problem when using external libraries
    - sai_c 4y ago
      Have an upvote for making my day :-).
robotnikman 4y ago
I ran into those issues when trying to build some old modding software for a game that was written in C++ (Corsix Mod Studio if anyone is wondering). I was not able to figure out how to get it to build, maybe someday I'll fire up a VM running XP and whatever version of Visual Studio was popular in 2006 and try again.
rodgerd 4y ago
Don't worry, the GNU people are looking to fix that.

I'd pick Rust over "modern" C++ just because I don't have to deal with 15 compilers, 15 IDEs, 15 build systems, decades of language experiments, kind of compiler-flags driven development

41b696ef1113 4y ago

The true real win of Rust. Knowing that you are incredibly likely to be able to compile it without any hoops. Random C/C++ project can still be a roll of the dice.

tejohnso 4y ago
> you are incredibly likely to be able to compile it without any hoops Nice. Does that hold true for cross compiling to arm (Rpi specifically) and Android?
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thoweiruo23423 4y ago

also, know 50+ "best-use" subsets of C++.

sseagull 4y ago

Give rust a few decades and it will get there. Remember when python was simple? And you just had setuptools? Popularity breeds complexity and fragmentation.

stackbutterflow 4y ago
Sure. In the meantime that's a few decades of better developer experience.
- lenkite 4y ago
  More like a few decades of extreme churn. Hey dude are you using Crate #43? No, thats dead on github. Try Crate #999. No dude that uses a diff async runtime. Try Crate #888. No dude, that has protest-ware on it and the boss complained. Try Crate #888. No dude, that has incompatible dependencies. Try Crate #456. No dude, that lib causes "fearless concurrency" deadlocks with async. Try crate #999. No dude, that has a gazillion macros and compilation times approach the heat-death of the universe. Try Crate #666...and the story goes on.
  - icybauhaus 4y ago
    Surely C++ doesn't have this problem when using external libraries
  - sai_c 4y ago
    Have an upvote for making my day :-).

robotnikman 4y ago

I ran into those issues when trying to build some old modding software for a game that was written in C++ (Corsix Mod Studio if anyone is wondering). I was not able to figure out how to get it to build, maybe someday I'll fire up a VM running XP and whatever version of Visual Studio was popular in 2006 and try again.

rodgerd 4y ago

Don't worry, the GNU people are looking to fix that.