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I don’t know why you’re suddenly suggesting that being skeptical of any and all power is to be a subscriber of conspiracy theories. I can totally agree with a p

I don’t know why you’re suddenly suggesting that being skeptical of any and all power is to be a subscriber of conspiracy theories. I can totally agree with a point of view or policy of authority but that doesn’t mean I just trust everything or anything without sufficient evidence and criticism. We love to talk about “critical thinking” but when the critical eye puts its gaze upon what todays authority deems sacred, it’s dismissed as not trusting “the science” or some other such midwit platitude.

jrajav 4y ago
With you up until the anti-intellectualism. Science is basically one and the same with critical thinking, a key feature of it is being assailable by itself. Casting doubt on "the science" speaks to me of unwillingness to accept scientific conclusions or to do the work necessary to question those conclusions with the same due diligence they were formed under.
- nemo44x 4y ago
  “The Science” is hardly ever it though. It’s an appeal to authority much like appeals to “The Scripture” when most often what claims to be “science” is not actually. And as if Science itself is a guarantee of anything or that it’s even a thing but rather a process to discover truth, or at least what isn’t. No one in possession of actual truth and fact from the scientific process ever had to make a claim simply that their science was evidence enough. And I’ll add the entire field of science is eager to have anything that claims itself as knowledge and truth to be challenged and poked and prodded. For the truth knows no false kings!
- jdkee 4y ago
  "Science is basically one and the same with critical thinking, a key feature of it is being assailable by itself." Why was the science behind investigating a possible lab-leak hypothesis of the origins of COVID suppressed? Why did the purportedly evidence-based medical community decide that mass public gatherings to protest racism was safe, while closing schools and beaches was not?
- TurkishPoptart 4y ago
  The problem is the applied political interpretation of Science by appointed bureaucrats and Big Pharma. Like the idea of "social distance" which has no scientific grounds whatsoever, but was dicatated from above by Scott Gottlieb at the FDA. In truth he admitted "nobody knows where it came from". It just sounded nice, and they went with it.[1] But when I question the utility of plexiglass screens at check-out counters (which I would and _still_ just need to crane my neck around so I can actually hear what the clerk is saying), I'm treated like a heretic for not "trusting" science. What the hell is that? The problem is that I'm right, and most other people believe what's on TV and artificially "trending" on Twitter, and those media hijack good-natured peoples' sense of trust and deferral to credentialism. [1]: https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/572926-gottlieb-nobody-knows-where-six-foot-distancing-recommendation/ https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/572926-gottli...

jrajav 4y ago

With you up until the anti-intellectualism. Science is basically one and the same with critical thinking, a key feature of it is being assailable by itself. Casting doubt on "the science" speaks to me of unwillingness to accept scientific conclusions or to do the work necessary to question those conclusions with the same due diligence they were formed under.

nemo44x 4y ago
“The Science” is hardly ever it though. It’s an appeal to authority much like appeals to “The Scripture” when most often what claims to be “science” is not actually. And as if Science itself is a guarantee of anything or that it’s even a thing but rather a process to discover truth, or at least what isn’t. No one in possession of actual truth and fact from the scientific process ever had to make a claim simply that their science was evidence enough. And I’ll add the entire field of science is eager to have anything that claims itself as knowledge and truth to be challenged and poked and prodded. For the truth knows no false kings!
jdkee 4y ago
"Science is basically one and the same with critical thinking, a key feature of it is being assailable by itself." Why was the science behind investigating a possible lab-leak hypothesis of the origins of COVID suppressed? Why did the purportedly evidence-based medical community decide that mass public gatherings to protest racism was safe, while closing schools and beaches was not?
TurkishPoptart 4y ago
The problem is the applied political interpretation of Science by appointed bureaucrats and Big Pharma. Like the idea of "social distance" which has no scientific grounds whatsoever, but was dicatated from above by Scott Gottlieb at the FDA. In truth he admitted "nobody knows where it came from". It just sounded nice, and they went with it.[1] But when I question the utility of plexiglass screens at check-out counters (which I would and _still_ just need to crane my neck around so I can actually hear what the clerk is saying), I'm treated like a heretic for not "trusting" science. What the hell is that? The problem is that I'm right, and most other people believe what's on TV and artificially "trending" on Twitter, and those media hijack good-natured peoples' sense of trust and deferral to credentialism. [1]: https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/572926-gottlieb-nobody-knows-where-six-foot-distancing-recommendation/ https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/572926-gottli...