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It doesn't matter if it's written as a hobby project or not. People need to stop making assumptions and just expecting work to be done for free for them. No wo

It doesn't matter if it's written as a hobby project or not. People need to stop making assumptions and just expecting work to be done for free for them. No wonder why maintainers burn out and companies are hesitant to open-source projects... random people come by and make demands with zero plans to pay for it.

q-big 4y ago
> random people come by and make demands with zero plans to pay for it. Perhaps we should then oppose the whole "hustle culture" which such attempts are part of (i.e. make demands without willing to pay, see whether they stick).
zmmmmm 4y ago
I think the reality is, if its a hobby project supported by one person then money doesn't really solve it. No company should put itself in the position of being reliant on some random individual on the internet whether they are willing to pay them or not. Of course, adopting this stance takes away opportunity for many small time open source projects to become popular in the first place, and the general incentive and opportunity for open source to succeed.
- LamaOfRuin 4y ago
  Money solves this by paying the original person or someone else to do what they need and provide the level of service and guarantees that they need. The whole point of open source is that it doesn't have to be the original developer.
  - harpiaharpyja 4y ago
    I'm glad you brought this up. It's really core to the value of open-source as an activity. It creates the possibility for a project to become much greater than what it would have been if it was limited to the person or organization that originated it.
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pie_flavor 4y ago
If one good thing can be said about the crypto sphere, it is that it is the only corner of the internet where nobody expects to get anything for free. Access is already gated by a wallet containing real money; you're going to use it. This leads to some surprisingly healthy dynamics around services and software that cost money to run but would be hard to charge for in web2.

q-big 4y ago

> random people come by and make demands with zero plans to pay for it. Perhaps we should then oppose the whole "hustle culture" which such attempts are part of (i.e. make demands without willing to pay, see whether they stick).

zmmmmm 4y ago

I think the reality is, if its a hobby project supported by one person then money doesn't really solve it. No company should put itself in the position of being reliant on some random individual on the internet whether they are willing to pay them or not. Of course, adopting this stance takes away opportunity for many small time open source projects to become popular in the first place, and the general incentive and opportunity for open source to succeed.

LamaOfRuin 4y ago
Money solves this by paying the original person or someone else to do what they need and provide the level of service and guarantees that they need. The whole point of open source is that it doesn't have to be the original developer.
- harpiaharpyja 4y ago
  I'm glad you brought this up. It's really core to the value of open-source as an activity. It creates the possibility for a project to become much greater than what it would have been if it was limited to the person or organization that originated it.
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pie_flavor 4y ago

If one good thing can be said about the crypto sphere, it is that it is the only corner of the internet where nobody expects to get anything for free. Access is already gated by a wallet containing real money; you're going to use it. This leads to some surprisingly healthy dynamics around services and software that cost money to run but would be hard to charge for in web2.