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Im not sure I follow. I think this happens to every company in an authoritarian state currently, not having a room like this would be the oddity? They collect
by ProAm 4y ago
Im not sure I follow. I think this happens to every company in an authoritarian state currently, not having a room like this would be the oddity? They collect everything by default, like we do, we just try to keep it secret?
- kube-system 4y agoWestern democracies discuss, legislate, and impose limitations on those collections powers in great detail.
- ProAm 4y agoI disagree with this in practice. Look at the data collection of the NSA, CIA, FBI, etc.... No one is willing to legislate or limit that.
- kube-system 4y agoThat is simply not true, there are tens of thousands of pages of law and regulation governing how those agencies must collect data. The most notable and relevant to this discussion is FISA which has been amended by Congress at least a dozen times. This is certainly not a topic that doesn’t come up in Congress.
- ProAm 4y agoI counter this with what Snowden leaked. And watching the head of the NSA lie to congress about data collection. [A] FISA is a rubber stamp, no one will give up this power (and I don't blame them). [1] [2] [1] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/05/foriegn-intelligence-surveillance-court-rubber-stamps-mass-surveillance-under https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/05/foriegn-intelligence-s... [2] https://www.npr.org/2013/06/13/191226106/fisa-court-appears-to-be-rubberstamp-for-government-requests https://www.npr.org/2013/06/13/191226106/fisa-court-appears-... [A] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2014/01/27/darrell-issa-james-clapper-lied-to-congress-about-nsa-and-should-be-fired/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2014/01/27...