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His conviction is vacated but they can put him on trial again.

bigmattystyles 4y ago
I doubt that will happen unless something else is revealed as the prosecutors are the ones that asked for the conviction to be vacated.
- bruceb 4y ago
  There is a third possibility, he pleads guilty to time served. He was a minor when the murder happened. He pleads, gets 25 years, with time served + good behavior, he never actually goes back to prison.
  - bigmattystyles 4y ago
    Right, I was even wondering about an Alford plea.
    - bruceb 4y ago
      yes, this is what I meant. A no contest type of plea. He can say he is pleading guilty because he has spent 20+ years in prison and just wants to be/stay out, not that he is guilty. State can say he is guilty but he has spent 20+ years in prison so we are agreeing to this in order save taxpayer $ and move on. I remember listening to Serial and thinking Adnan Syed's advocate Rabia Chaudry seemed more convinced of his innocence than he was. Like he was maintaining his innocence for his family then she came along and started pushing harder to get him out and he was along for the ride. Victims don't always act as we might expect. So that might just be the way he is. Hopefully concrete proof will come out to say exactly who it was. I hope this for the family of Hae Min Lee. But is possible it never does.
      - micromacrofoot 4y ago
        I think the point of the podcast was to make a case that "probably did it" isn't enough for a life sentence. Unfortunately I think many people are uncomfortable with the lack of closure behind such a situation, but that's another angle of our justice system more people should probably be conscious of.
happytoexplain 4y ago
I thought there were no exceptions to double jeopardy? Is that a popular misconception? What makes it possible in this case?
- ryeights 4y ago
  Double jeopardy only prevents you from being retried after a not guilty ruling. Since Syed was initially found guilty, it does not apply in this case.
- dwighttk 4y ago
  “Phinn ruled that the state violated its legal obligation to share evidence that could have bolstered Syed’s defense. She ordered Syed to be placed on home detention with GPS location monitoring. The judge also said the state must decide whether to seek a new trial date or dismiss the case within 30 days.” He wasn’t ruled innocent… there was something technically wrong with the trial proceedings.

I doubt that will happen unless something else is revealed as the prosecutors are the ones that asked for the conviction to be vacated.

bruceb 4y ago
There is a third possibility, he pleads guilty to time served. He was a minor when the murder happened. He pleads, gets 25 years, with time served + good behavior, he never actually goes back to prison.
- bigmattystyles 4y ago
  Right, I was even wondering about an Alford plea.
  - bruceb 4y ago
    yes, this is what I meant. A no contest type of plea. He can say he is pleading guilty because he has spent 20+ years in prison and just wants to be/stay out, not that he is guilty. State can say he is guilty but he has spent 20+ years in prison so we are agreeing to this in order save taxpayer $ and move on. I remember listening to Serial and thinking Adnan Syed's advocate Rabia Chaudry seemed more convinced of his innocence than he was. Like he was maintaining his innocence for his family then she came along and started pushing harder to get him out and he was along for the ride. Victims don't always act as we might expect. So that might just be the way he is. Hopefully concrete proof will come out to say exactly who it was. I hope this for the family of Hae Min Lee. But is possible it never does.
    - micromacrofoot 4y ago
      I think the point of the podcast was to make a case that "probably did it" isn't enough for a life sentence. Unfortunately I think many people are uncomfortable with the lack of closure behind such a situation, but that's another angle of our justice system more people should probably be conscious of.

happytoexplain 4y ago

I thought there were no exceptions to double jeopardy? Is that a popular misconception? What makes it possible in this case?

ryeights 4y ago
Double jeopardy only prevents you from being retried after a not guilty ruling. Since Syed was initially found guilty, it does not apply in this case.
dwighttk 4y ago
“Phinn ruled that the state violated its legal obligation to share evidence that could have bolstered Syed’s defense. She ordered Syed to be placed on home detention with GPS location monitoring. The judge also said the state must decide whether to seek a new trial date or dismiss the case within 30 days.” He wasn’t ruled innocent… there was something technically wrong with the trial proceedings.