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Google and Facebook would LOVE to have TikTok banned because TikTok is eating their lunch right now, attracting advertising money at a rate that is an existenti
by mikece 4y ago
Google and Facebook would LOVE to have TikTok banned because TikTok is eating their lunch right now, attracting advertising money at a rate that is an existential threat to them both.
- CharlesW 4y agoThe enemy of your enemy can still be your worst enemy.
- pessimizer 4y agoAre the Chinese your worst enemy? How did they hurt you?
- gremlinsinc 4y agoThey've hurt many in Ukraine by siding with Russia. I for one support Ukraine and in that way they could be seen as an enemy. Also anything resembling fascism in the least bit should be demonized, CCP/Russia are ruled by fascists as are the majority of their allies (read: dictatorships/military ruled countries aka non democratic/republic/parliamentarian countries). If there's a world war 3, you better believe the powers will be USA, Western EU, Japan, Australia, Taiwan, NZ, (maybe India), (maybe israel), against China, Russia, Venezuela, Cuba, maybe Brazil, et al. I don't say this because they're communist, etc. I like aspects of communism, I say this because they rule like the book 1984 is a guidebook, not a work of fiction.
- bsnnkv 4y agoJust curious, which side of the divide do you think predominantly Muslim countries would fall on in this WW3 scenario? Asking to satisfy my constant hunger for alternate-history/possible-future worldbuilding.
- CharlesW 4y ago“Worst enemy” in this case refers to TikTok, not “the Chinese”.
- naikrovek 4y agoGoogle is fully capable of banning them on Android. Apple is fully capable there, of course. The US Gov't has asked both to stop carrying TikTok on app stores multiple times, and it's still there. I don't think anyone wants TikTok gone other than people who don't use it or who see how much data is collected. TikTok is something of a cancer, and like cancer, it has zero incentive to stop. metastasis is TikTok's entire purpose.
- babypuncher 4y agoApple doesn't compete with TikTok at all. Google sort of does compete via YouTube, but YouTube is still the top dog and serving a different niche. I don't see TikTok's rise stealing market share from YouTube nearly as much as it is stealing from Instagram and Facebook. I guess my point is that neither app store owners have any real incentive to ban TikTok. It would hurt both companies by way of pissing off users far more than it would benefit them by nudging users to their own services.
- naikrovek 4y agomy point is that even though apple is not harmed by blocking TikTok, they still refuse to do it. why the hell are big businesses so scared of China? money? these businesses should be put down if money allows a foreign and malicious entity to strongarm them. absolutely despicable.
- tablespoon 4y ago> my point is that even though apple is not harmed by blocking TikTok, they still refuse to do it. > why the hell are big businesses so scared of China? money? these businesses should be put down if money allows a foreign and malicious entity to strongarm them. absolutely despicable. China has Apple by the balls: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/06/technology/china-apple-iphone.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/06/technology/china-apple-ip....
- naikrovek 4y ago
- elzbardico 4y agoWhere do you think all this TikTok "Reefer Madness" is coming from? This is just plain old protectionism.
- ojbyrne 4y agoGoogle and Facebook are both blocked in China, so if it is protectionism, it's reciprocal, and China did it first.
- AlexandrB 4y agoI don't get it. Don't you want to live in a country with more freedom than China? Why is China restricting what their citizens see online an excuse for the US to do so?
- pessimizer 4y agoGoogle and Facebook don't submit to Chinese censorship rules, TikTok submits to US censorship rules.
- andreilys 4y agoIt comes from the fact that the CCP is not above committing genocide on its own citizens, or disappearing high profile figures who are critical of the party line. Pretty easy to imagine what would happen if a party official said "please promote content that is divisive or favors pro CCP propaganda". I can't imagine the CEO of Binance saying no to that, and the ability to detect changes to a black-box recommendation algorithm are non-existant.
- bergenty 4y agoStill, I don’t want to enable the CCP propagating with their explicit authoritarianism without the modicum of checks we seem to have available here. Whatever hurts them is good for me. That being said what they’re doing seems to be effective, they’ve essentially lifted all 1 billion of their people out of poverty in the span of 20 years, it really is an incredible achievement.
- commandlinefan 4y agoI watch tiktok videos on Twitter and Facebook.
- Induane 4y agoThat part is one of the things that makes all of it extra funny. By everyones content from each platform ending up on all the other platforms, they get subjected to a different set of ranking algorithms. The ones that spread beyond one platform have managed a weirdly difficult bit of Darwinism.
- Arrath 4y agoIts reposts all the way down. Sometimes nested in two or three layers of reaction videos.
- MiguelX413 4y agoI'd love to read research about this.
- nova22033 4y agoif google and facebook are in favor of something, I should automatically be against it?
- Victerius 4y ago"Google and Facebook gift company stock to their employees as part of their compensation package" HN: *squint eyes*