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I also found the tone of that article annoying. The author is talking about repairing one of the–if not the– most advanced things ever mass-assembled. No shit,

I also found the tone of that article annoying. The author is talking about repairing one of the–if not the– most advanced things ever mass-assembled. No shit, it's not easy.

sudosysgen 4y ago
It's not as hard as you think it is. Apple is indeed massively over complicating the process.
- aardvarkr 4y ago
  They gave him three machines to use for replacing his battery. 1. A machine to melt the glue holding the battery in place 2. A machine to apply even pressure to the new battery to ensure it’s properly adhered 3. A machine to apply heat and even pressure to the entire phone to properly give the phone with a watertight seal. That seems like exactly what I’d expect has to happen to repair the phone back to original spec. I’m actually impressed that Apple gives this out to consumers to use.
  - danielheath 4y ago
    Yeah, but you can do the whole repair without it, if you’re confident that you won’t set the existing battery on fire removing it, and don’t mind some small risk of the new one exploding in your pocket after you sit down, and waterproofing isn’t important to you…
    - misterprime 4y ago
      Those are three pretty big "if" statements to get past. Maybe it is OK that some items aren't easily repairable at home. It would be awesome if Apple also offered a lower cost model with an easily replaceable battery (like an old Android), more easily repairable, and not necessarily water proof. But, if there really was a market for that, some Android manufacturer would have something for it. Maybe there is one and I haven't looked.
      - danielheath 4y ago
        Sorry, I should have left the /s on the end of that comment.
  - _V_ 4y ago
    Any modern iPhone has its battery held by pull tabs (double sided tape that lets go when you pull on it sideways). They are sometimes PITA to remove but you just need tweezers, fingers and bit of luck to remove it :-) Adhering the battery is the same - just press in place. Heat is only needed for opening/closing the phone.
    - j16sdiz 4y ago
      Are they water tight after repair? Can you re-open with the same ease?
      - _V_ 4y ago
        I'd say it depends on brand of pre-cut adhesive seal you use. But normally (and if done correctly) it is watertight and opens +- the same.
      - bayindirh 4y ago
        I got my iPhone X’s battery replaced by an authorized repair center. You can’t tell whether the phone has opened or not. They worked that cleanly (no, it’s my phone. The serial number is the same). It’s waterproof and has no witness marks telling about the repair. Moreover, they changed my speaker for free, because it was defective or damaged. I didn’t know that. I only learned after getting my phone with service summary report.
      - hackmiester 4y ago
        I had mine done by Apple at an Apple Store and then got it wet two days later. It was destroyed instantly. They gave me a new phone at no cost. As a result, I now recommend AppleCare replacement over any repair, if the water resistance is important to you.
        _V_ 4y ago
        Honestly anyone can screw up during re-sealing step. It is not really that hard to do correctly but if you don't follow the procedure correctly, new adhesive will stick somewhat but will not be as strong as before. The thing is that even if you screw this up, it will probably look OK for quite some time without being really water tight.
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vanderZwan 4y ago
And yet Fairphone manages without being significantly simpler in features.
- jquery 4y ago
  To be fair, wouldn’t an iPhone from 5 years ago not be “significantly simpler” in features?
  - vanderZwan 4y ago
    It's not like iPhones from five years ago were easy to repair. And definitely not as easily as Fairphones. edit: wait, are we agreeing or not? I'm not entirely sure what you're arguing
    - jquery 4y ago
      What I mean is Fairphone isn’t really comparable to an iPhone 14 pro. Not yet anyway. I’m all for more sustainable smartphones and even laws backing this up, so I don’t know if I’m disagreeing with you. Apple is making enough margin to focus more on sustainability at this point without sacrificing anything else.

I also found the tone of that article annoying. The author is talking about repairing one of the–if not the– most advanced things ever mass-assembled. No shit, it's not easy.

sudosysgen 4y ago

It's not as hard as you think it is. Apple is indeed massively over complicating the process.

aardvarkr 4y ago
They gave him three machines to use for replacing his battery. 1. A machine to melt the glue holding the battery in place 2. A machine to apply even pressure to the new battery to ensure it’s properly adhered 3. A machine to apply heat and even pressure to the entire phone to properly give the phone with a watertight seal. That seems like exactly what I’d expect has to happen to repair the phone back to original spec. I’m actually impressed that Apple gives this out to consumers to use.
- danielheath 4y ago
  Yeah, but you can do the whole repair without it, if you’re confident that you won’t set the existing battery on fire removing it, and don’t mind some small risk of the new one exploding in your pocket after you sit down, and waterproofing isn’t important to you…
  - misterprime 4y ago
    Those are three pretty big "if" statements to get past. Maybe it is OK that some items aren't easily repairable at home. It would be awesome if Apple also offered a lower cost model with an easily replaceable battery (like an old Android), more easily repairable, and not necessarily water proof. But, if there really was a market for that, some Android manufacturer would have something for it. Maybe there is one and I haven't looked.
    - danielheath 4y ago
      Sorry, I should have left the /s on the end of that comment.
- _V_ 4y ago
  Any modern iPhone has its battery held by pull tabs (double sided tape that lets go when you pull on it sideways). They are sometimes PITA to remove but you just need tweezers, fingers and bit of luck to remove it :-) Adhering the battery is the same - just press in place. Heat is only needed for opening/closing the phone.
  - j16sdiz 4y ago
    Are they water tight after repair? Can you re-open with the same ease?
    - _V_ 4y ago
      I'd say it depends on brand of pre-cut adhesive seal you use. But normally (and if done correctly) it is watertight and opens +- the same.
    - bayindirh 4y ago
      I got my iPhone X’s battery replaced by an authorized repair center. You can’t tell whether the phone has opened or not. They worked that cleanly (no, it’s my phone. The serial number is the same). It’s waterproof and has no witness marks telling about the repair. Moreover, they changed my speaker for free, because it was defective or damaged. I didn’t know that. I only learned after getting my phone with service summary report.
    - hackmiester 4y ago
      I had mine done by Apple at an Apple Store and then got it wet two days later. It was destroyed instantly. They gave me a new phone at no cost. As a result, I now recommend AppleCare replacement over any repair, if the water resistance is important to you.
      - _V_ 4y ago
        Honestly anyone can screw up during re-sealing step. It is not really that hard to do correctly but if you don't follow the procedure correctly, new adhesive will stick somewhat but will not be as strong as before. The thing is that even if you screw this up, it will probably look OK for quite some time without being really water tight.
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vanderZwan 4y ago

And yet Fairphone manages without being significantly simpler in features.

jquery 4y ago
To be fair, wouldn’t an iPhone from 5 years ago not be “significantly simpler” in features?
- vanderZwan 4y ago
  It's not like iPhones from five years ago were easy to repair. And definitely not as easily as Fairphones. edit: wait, are we agreeing or not? I'm not entirely sure what you're arguing
  - jquery 4y ago
    What I mean is Fairphone isn’t really comparable to an iPhone 14 pro. Not yet anyway. I’m all for more sustainable smartphones and even laws backing this up, so I don’t know if I’m disagreeing with you. Apple is making enough margin to focus more on sustainability at this point without sacrificing anything else.