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There have been instances in chess where cheaters get caught and they receive light bans and many top players say the punishment is too weak. It's intuitive, i
by ejcx 4y ago
There have been instances in chess where cheaters get caught and they receive light bans and many top players say the punishment is too weak. It's intuitive, if you've been caught cheating then you should be banned from competitive chess. I think that's more likely what Magnus thinks.
- ncmncm 4y agoIt should suffice that you can be proven not to be cheating right here and right now. Unlike doping, getting assistance helps you only exactly as long as you continue getting it.
- macintux 4y agoGood luck proving an absence of cheating, especially in an online match.
- ncmncm 4y agoOnline is admittedly tricky. But it seemed to me this one wasn't.
- munificent 4y agoA rule like that simply incentivizes players to spend resources developing more sophisticated methods of cheating. You have to consider not just the immediate effects of a rule, but the iterated systemic effects.
- permo-w 4y agoI don't agree with the person you're replying to; it's unfair to permanently ban people from competitive play for online cheating they did when they were younger (although not that much younger in this case). however, without overly expensive and invasive methods of detection, plus unpleasant rule changes, what you describe isn't feasible. there are too many ways to cheat, and people who are already smart enough to play at a grandmaster level are not only going to find these ways, but excel in them. I don't have any evidence to back this up, but I would be extremely willing to believe that plenty of high-level OTB cheating has gone on over the years, especially with money on the line
- ejcx 4y agoThat's not necessarily how I feel, but I think it's a possible explanation for the way Magnus feels.
- stjohnswarts 4y agoGood sportsmanship is important in any competitive game or match. When you cheat you should be banned. Maybe not forever but for a significant amount of time. Say 2 years in chess would seem reasonable. Enough to sting but not enough to end a career.