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Anyone crossing a border where a nation state takes physical possession of their device is, currently, protected. The US border authorities have a very awful po

Anyone crossing a border where a nation state takes physical possession of their device is, currently, protected. The US border authorities have a very awful policy of storing data they’ve stolen for up to 15 years, and other US federal authorities have been previously caught using hardware modifications to hack devices. Anyone within 100 miles of a US border is subject to seizure and search under US law, which is approximately one-fifth of the country, including SF tech workers and NYC fintech workers. These protections apply to considerably more of one country’s populace than would benefit from off-market parts being usable at third-party repair shops. I appreciate Apple’s choice to prioritize in this regard, but I’d still like to see if tech can overcome this barrier without sacrificing that safety.

jorvi 4y ago
> Anyone crossing a border where a nation state takes physical possession of their device is, currently, protected. Assuming you are a normal person, you already are. Rapidly click the lock button 5 times and they cannot extract any data with normal means. If you are someone worthy of nation-state attention, why are you crossing the border without a wiped device, as has been the adviced standard practice for years? Again: these draconian repair protections should be tied to Lockdown mode. There is no reason to destroy repairability to protect a tiny group that isn’t giving their device out for repairs anyway if they’re following opsec.
- altairprime 4y ago
  I have no faith in the ability of nation-states to accurately determine that I am not a criminal, and the authorities in my home nation-state are known around the world for both their excessive violence and their unannounced home invasions, in which (for example) scenario reaching for my phone would result in me being killed. Those protections benefit me and others like me especially, and I’m comfortable paying a few more dollars for authorized repairs to retain them. I appreciate that you do not see the need for those protections for yourself, but the convenience you seek comes at the cost of the safety it provides others. I remain unpersuaded.
  - jorvi 4y ago
    > I have no faith in the ability of nation-states to accurately determine that I am not a criminal No state will burn extremely expensive tools like Pegasus on a garden-variety criminal. I’m very conscious of my privacy and device security myself, but I’m also aware that I do not warrant high-cost surveillance. Most people are in that boat. You can model your threats accordingly.

jorvi 4y ago

> Anyone crossing a border where a nation state takes physical possession of their device is, currently, protected. Assuming you are a normal person, you already are. Rapidly click the lock button 5 times and they cannot extract any data with normal means. If you are someone worthy of nation-state attention, why are you crossing the border without a wiped device, as has been the adviced standard practice for years? Again: these draconian repair protections should be tied to Lockdown mode. There is no reason to destroy repairability to protect a tiny group that isn’t giving their device out for repairs anyway if they’re following opsec.

altairprime 4y ago
I have no faith in the ability of nation-states to accurately determine that I am not a criminal, and the authorities in my home nation-state are known around the world for both their excessive violence and their unannounced home invasions, in which (for example) scenario reaching for my phone would result in me being killed. Those protections benefit me and others like me especially, and I’m comfortable paying a few more dollars for authorized repairs to retain them. I appreciate that you do not see the need for those protections for yourself, but the convenience you seek comes at the cost of the safety it provides others. I remain unpersuaded.
- jorvi 4y ago
  > I have no faith in the ability of nation-states to accurately determine that I am not a criminal No state will burn extremely expensive tools like Pegasus on a garden-variety criminal. I’m very conscious of my privacy and device security myself, but I’m also aware that I do not warrant high-cost surveillance. Most people are in that boat. You can model your threats accordingly.