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Oh please. How many times does Hans need to cheat before he is banned? I've been playing chess for a long time and never felt compelled to cheat, let alone in t

Oh please. How many times does Hans need to cheat before he is banned? I've been playing chess for a long time and never felt compelled to cheat, let alone in tournament, let alone cheat again after already being caught once. Hans also had this to say after he beat Carlsen: “It must be embarrassing for the world champion to lose to me. I feel bad for him!” Who is the bully here?

asdajksah2123 4y ago
You're right. I forgot Chess tournaments are blindfolded, so you don't know who is participating, and who you will be playing. Oh wait, that's totally not the case and Carlsen absolutely knew who he would be playing and knew the exact measures the tournament was taking and still hasn't had the balls to release a statement actually accusing Niemann of cheating, despite the fact that this is something everyone knows. Our brave Carlsen is too scared to make the claim that Hans is cheating despite this being something as obvious as the sky appearing blue. I'm not sure how this makes Carlsen look any better.
- pessimizer 4y ago
  I'm sure you'd be a lot happier with him if he accused the guy of cheating with no evidence. Carlsen thinks he's cheating and doesn't want to play with him; it might be soap opera, but it's not assault. If you don't want to be accused of cheating with no concrete evidence, don't get caught cheating. It's obvious that he's a world-class player, but it's his responsibility alone to get past that bad reputation. Even after time passes and he gets away from it, people will still use it as a pretext to screw with him. But he earned that black mark just as much as he earned his playing skill. The smart move for Niemann is to be absurdly graceful about this, and eventually, hopefully, get Carlsen on his side (or at least neutral.)
- slowmovintarget 4y ago
  Carlsen may have legal advice to avoid a statement.
- __s 4y ago
  Niemann was a last minute substitution at Sinquefield
mellosouls 4y ago
According to his own account, Niemann was 12 and 16 when he cheated online and it was to bump twitch views and beef rating quickly to play better players. Doesn't excuse him, but he has acknowledged it and his shame and there is absolutely no evidence he has cheated over the board.
- JacobThreeThree 4y ago
  >According to his own account, Niemann was 12 and 16 when he cheated online and it was to bump twitch views and beef rating quickly to play better players. Chess.com seems to have additional evidence of Hans cheating: https://twitter.com/chesscom/status/1568010971616100352 https://twitter.com/chesscom/status/1568010971616100352
  - mrguyorama 4y ago
    Otherwise known as "Uhhh we totally have evidence that he's bad, totally, definitely. No we can't show you because uhhhh reasons"
- kbelder 4y ago
  You don't quickly beef your rating by cheating once.

asdajksah2123 4y ago

You're right. I forgot Chess tournaments are blindfolded, so you don't know who is participating, and who you will be playing. Oh wait, that's totally not the case and Carlsen absolutely knew who he would be playing and knew the exact measures the tournament was taking and still hasn't had the balls to release a statement actually accusing Niemann of cheating, despite the fact that this is something everyone knows. Our brave Carlsen is too scared to make the claim that Hans is cheating despite this being something as obvious as the sky appearing blue. I'm not sure how this makes Carlsen look any better.

pessimizer 4y ago
I'm sure you'd be a lot happier with him if he accused the guy of cheating with no evidence. Carlsen thinks he's cheating and doesn't want to play with him; it might be soap opera, but it's not assault. If you don't want to be accused of cheating with no concrete evidence, don't get caught cheating. It's obvious that he's a world-class player, but it's his responsibility alone to get past that bad reputation. Even after time passes and he gets away from it, people will still use it as a pretext to screw with him. But he earned that black mark just as much as he earned his playing skill. The smart move for Niemann is to be absurdly graceful about this, and eventually, hopefully, get Carlsen on his side (or at least neutral.)
slowmovintarget 4y ago
Carlsen may have legal advice to avoid a statement.
__s 4y ago
Niemann was a last minute substitution at Sinquefield

mellosouls 4y ago

According to his own account, Niemann was 12 and 16 when he cheated online and it was to bump twitch views and beef rating quickly to play better players. Doesn't excuse him, but he has acknowledged it and his shame and there is absolutely no evidence he has cheated over the board.

JacobThreeThree 4y ago
>According to his own account, Niemann was 12 and 16 when he cheated online and it was to bump twitch views and beef rating quickly to play better players. Chess.com seems to have additional evidence of Hans cheating: https://twitter.com/chesscom/status/1568010971616100352 https://twitter.com/chesscom/status/1568010971616100352
- mrguyorama 4y ago
  Otherwise known as "Uhhh we totally have evidence that he's bad, totally, definitely. No we can't show you because uhhhh reasons"
kbelder 4y ago
You don't quickly beef your rating by cheating once.