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Europe missed the train and train doesn't reverse when missing the station.. Energy and infrastructure are the venes of Europe which clocked and overstretched

Europe missed the train and train doesn't reverse when missing the station.. Energy and infrastructure are the venes of Europe which clocked and overstretched to the max. Something will need to give and it already begins by small bakeries closing and more to follow.. It wont end well. I don't believe we will have any growth in Europe for the next 3 years. Who is going to invest in Europe if energy is literally unpredictable and expensive?

UncleOxidant 4y ago
Yeah, bakeries are energy intensive. Methane generation from sewage would be one way to (relatively quickly^) replace some of the natural gas that was coming from Russia. And as a side benefit fertilizer could be produced from the same sewage. ^ even so it would probably take a couple of years to get methane generation going at scale.
- bilsbie 4y ago
  On the other hand we’ve managed to have bakeries for 1000s of years before most modern energy sources were discovered.
  - UncleOxidant 4y ago
    Wood is an option, but it will require a lot of wood to fire Europe's bakeries.
  - lotsofpulp 4y ago
    Unless those bakeries can deliver baked goods at similar cost to bakeries using modern energy sources, the problem still stands of the populace having a downward shift in consumption and expectations of their quality of life , which typically has political ramifications.
mancerayder 4y ago
Are people blaming environmentalists for attacking nuclear energy all these years? France stuck to it, but Germany seems to have bowed to pressure. The lesson is always to dismiss idealists and ideologues in politics.
- Bombthecat 4y ago
  Half truth, the green parties wanted a replacement, solar and wind. They only wanted gas as a switch off / switch on power source, you cant do that with nuclear. Instead, people protested also against wind and solar and we switched to cheap gas from Russia. Which the green parties didn't want at all..

UncleOxidant 4y ago

Yeah, bakeries are energy intensive. Methane generation from sewage would be one way to (relatively quickly^) replace some of the natural gas that was coming from Russia. And as a side benefit fertilizer could be produced from the same sewage. ^ even so it would probably take a couple of years to get methane generation going at scale.

bilsbie 4y ago
On the other hand we’ve managed to have bakeries for 1000s of years before most modern energy sources were discovered.
- UncleOxidant 4y ago
  Wood is an option, but it will require a lot of wood to fire Europe's bakeries.
- lotsofpulp 4y ago
  Unless those bakeries can deliver baked goods at similar cost to bakeries using modern energy sources, the problem still stands of the populace having a downward shift in consumption and expectations of their quality of life , which typically has political ramifications.

mancerayder 4y ago

Are people blaming environmentalists for attacking nuclear energy all these years? France stuck to it, but Germany seems to have bowed to pressure. The lesson is always to dismiss idealists and ideologues in politics.

Bombthecat 4y ago
Half truth, the green parties wanted a replacement, solar and wind. They only wanted gas as a switch off / switch on power source, you cant do that with nuclear. Instead, people protested also against wind and solar and we switched to cheap gas from Russia. Which the green parties didn't want at all..