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You are conflating separate concerns. Tracking serial numbers to black-list stolen parts (too much effort for too little value IMO but I'm not a bean counter f

You are conflating separate concerns. Tracking serial numbers to black-list stolen parts (too much effort for too little value IMO but I'm not a bean counter for a nation-state-sized corporation so what do I know?) is very different from white-listing ordained parts. Independent shops should be able to buy broken phones from individuals and part them out for repairs without jumping through Apple's hoops.

dwaite 4y ago
> Independent shops should be able to buy broken phones from individuals and part them out for repairs without jumping through Apple's hoops. I assume in this scenario that all independent shops are trustworthy entities that won't use stolen, reclaimed, or third-party parts in order to save money, without informing the customer?
- shuntress 4y ago
  Nothing exists in a vacuum. Tracking stolen phones and busting chop shops is probably something that should be handled by law enforcement.
  - newtritious 4y ago
    Until it is, Apple are serving their customers by protecting them from this problem.
    - shuntress 4y ago
      I am much more likely to need a phone serviced than have a phone stolen. Apple should protect me from a repair monopoly overcharging just enough such that a new device (also sold by said monopoly) looks more appealing than a repair.
      - newtritious 4y ago
        They are also protecting you against repair shops using substandard parts, and compromising device security. The claim about them doing this to make you buy a new device is made up.
- robocat 4y ago
  Apple could provide a genuine parts and stolen parts tracking tool for the most valuable parts: screen, camera, motherboard. The goal is to make stolen iPhones worth nearly zero to thieves, which makes iPhones more valuable to all iPhone owners. Otherwise stolen iPhones are worth enough to incentivise a stolen iPhone economy. https://www.ifixit.com/Parts/iPhone_13/Screens https://www.ifixit.com/Parts/iPhone_13/Screens Not having your phone stolen is worth your replacement cost to you.

dwaite 4y ago

> Independent shops should be able to buy broken phones from individuals and part them out for repairs without jumping through Apple's hoops. I assume in this scenario that all independent shops are trustworthy entities that won't use stolen, reclaimed, or third-party parts in order to save money, without informing the customer?

shuntress 4y ago
Nothing exists in a vacuum. Tracking stolen phones and busting chop shops is probably something that should be handled by law enforcement.
- newtritious 4y ago
  Until it is, Apple are serving their customers by protecting them from this problem.
  - shuntress 4y ago
    I am much more likely to need a phone serviced than have a phone stolen. Apple should protect me from a repair monopoly overcharging just enough such that a new device (also sold by said monopoly) looks more appealing than a repair.
    - newtritious 4y ago
      They are also protecting you against repair shops using substandard parts, and compromising device security. The claim about them doing this to make you buy a new device is made up.
robocat 4y ago
Apple could provide a genuine parts and stolen parts tracking tool for the most valuable parts: screen, camera, motherboard. The goal is to make stolen iPhones worth nearly zero to thieves, which makes iPhones more valuable to all iPhone owners. Otherwise stolen iPhones are worth enough to incentivise a stolen iPhone economy. https://www.ifixit.com/Parts/iPhone_13/Screens https://www.ifixit.com/Parts/iPhone_13/Screens Not having your phone stolen is worth your replacement cost to you.