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You know, I bet somebody responded very similarly to a complaint about the first game studio to put loot boxes in their games. Now we are plagued by them. "Don

You know, I bet somebody responded very similarly to a complaint about the first game studio to put loot boxes in their games. Now we are plagued by them. "Don't like it? Well just make your own ____!" is another classic.

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eropple 4y ago
If you play AAA games or mobile games, sure, you're plagued by them. I don't play either. The games I do play don't have much in the way of that sort of thing at all. And I think they're more fun games besides.
- sennight 4y ago
  I don't understand your point, which effectively seems to be "not all games!" This is actually a zero sum scenario, games that are pay-to-win would have been something else had the concept not been popularized. Even games that are completely structured around these gambling mechanics... no, they wouldn't necessarily be different games in an alternate reality - they'd just be a different use of the dev's time. So maybe a birdhouse. Also, if this was a derail attempt - well done, I'm now thinking about carpentry instead of how much I dislike Apple.
  - eropple 4y ago
    > I don't understand your point, which effectively seems to be "not all games!" It's more "capitalism dot txt is a thing, yes, but you're opting in." Which you can totally do. I am saying that this is a venue where you don't have to.
pb7 4y ago
Weird, I have never played a game with lootboxes nor have I had to even think about avoiding it. Only supports my point that your fear of it affecting you is unfounded in reality. Except I didn't say make your own, I said pick from the variety of competitors. Who are you to dictate what a third party does, especially when that third party's decisions are well liked by their customers? I don't want the "freedom" to put in cheap aftermarket parts in my high end device, I want it to work extremely well and it does.
- sennight 4y ago
  > Except I didn't say make your own... No, that is what comes next - after somebody mentions Apple's part in the herpes like spread of chicklet keyboards. > Who are you to dictate what a third party does... Who are you to put words in my mouth? I've counseled something other than compulsion, I've suggested that you and apologists like you should be openly mocked for reasons that I can't list - because it would be bullying, run afoul of various codes of conduct, etc.

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eropple 4y ago

If you play AAA games or mobile games, sure, you're plagued by them. I don't play either. The games I do play don't have much in the way of that sort of thing at all. And I think they're more fun games besides.

sennight 4y ago
I don't understand your point, which effectively seems to be "not all games!" This is actually a zero sum scenario, games that are pay-to-win would have been something else had the concept not been popularized. Even games that are completely structured around these gambling mechanics... no, they wouldn't necessarily be different games in an alternate reality - they'd just be a different use of the dev's time. So maybe a birdhouse. Also, if this was a derail attempt - well done, I'm now thinking about carpentry instead of how much I dislike Apple.
- eropple 4y ago
  > I don't understand your point, which effectively seems to be "not all games!" It's more "capitalism dot txt is a thing, yes, but you're opting in." Which you can totally do. I am saying that this is a venue where you don't have to.

pb7 4y ago

Weird, I have never played a game with lootboxes nor have I had to even think about avoiding it. Only supports my point that your fear of it affecting you is unfounded in reality. Except I didn't say make your own, I said pick from the variety of competitors. Who are you to dictate what a third party does, especially when that third party's decisions are well liked by their customers? I don't want the "freedom" to put in cheap aftermarket parts in my high end device, I want it to work extremely well and it does.

sennight 4y ago
> Except I didn't say make your own... No, that is what comes next - after somebody mentions Apple's part in the herpes like spread of chicklet keyboards. > Who are you to dictate what a third party does... Who are you to put words in my mouth? I've counseled something other than compulsion, I've suggested that you and apologists like you should be openly mocked for reasons that I can't list - because it would be bullying, run afoul of various codes of conduct, etc.