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I can assure you there are plenty of people within the Apple organization that genuinely care about security and privacy. And if Apple happens to profit due to

I can assure you there are plenty of people within the Apple organization that genuinely care about security and privacy. And if Apple happens to profit due to those efforts, all the better. Not everything is some evil nefarious ploy.

makeitdouble 4y ago
There’s also very nice people working for Oracle. That doesn’t really reflect on how decisions are taken and what priorities are set at the higher level.
- spideymans 4y ago
  This is just nonsensical speculating, unless we understand the internal motivations of Apple’s decision makers. Maybe they’re evil and view this as a tool to dominate the world. Maybe they think these are genuinely beneficial decisions for their customers. Who knows.
  - tomxor 4y ago
    > This is just nonsensical speculating, unless we understand the internal motivations of Apple’s decision makers No, your reasoning is nonsensical, you can defend anything with that argument. If you apply it to the rest of the world then no one can do evil because you can never know someone's true motivations... at a certain point you have to draw conclusions from actions, and it's pretty hard to see Apple's actions as not intending to maximise wealth extraction at this point, sure "tech" stuff still happens there out of some necessity and momentum, but the people at the helm clearly have a singular goal. If your argument is merely that strong inference is flawed, then you are in for a lot of disappointment with reality in general, since 99.9% of what everyone does every day is based upon it out of necessity.
  - makeitdouble 4y ago
    Tim Cook testified in the Epic vs Apple trial explaining in clear business terms why they don't want third party app stores, side loading and non Apple surveyed alternative payment systems. The core of the argument was the money they believe Apple is entitled to.

makeitdouble 4y ago

There’s also very nice people working for Oracle. That doesn’t really reflect on how decisions are taken and what priorities are set at the higher level.

spideymans 4y ago
This is just nonsensical speculating, unless we understand the internal motivations of Apple’s decision makers. Maybe they’re evil and view this as a tool to dominate the world. Maybe they think these are genuinely beneficial decisions for their customers. Who knows.
- tomxor 4y ago
  > This is just nonsensical speculating, unless we understand the internal motivations of Apple’s decision makers No, your reasoning is nonsensical, you can defend anything with that argument. If you apply it to the rest of the world then no one can do evil because you can never know someone's true motivations... at a certain point you have to draw conclusions from actions, and it's pretty hard to see Apple's actions as not intending to maximise wealth extraction at this point, sure "tech" stuff still happens there out of some necessity and momentum, but the people at the helm clearly have a singular goal. If your argument is merely that strong inference is flawed, then you are in for a lot of disappointment with reality in general, since 99.9% of what everyone does every day is based upon it out of necessity.
- makeitdouble 4y ago
  Tim Cook testified in the Epic vs Apple trial explaining in clear business terms why they don't want third party app stores, side loading and non Apple surveyed alternative payment systems. The core of the argument was the money they believe Apple is entitled to.