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How would you react if the government announced tomorrow that they were going to pay all expenses in perpetuity for a selection of people, ~40% of the populatio

How would you react if the government announced tomorrow that they were going to pay all expenses in perpetuity for a selection of people, ~40% of the population forever. Would you still argue that the people complaining and who have to work for to support the governments handouts are self centered if you had to continue working. Or would you think that something was not right. 'It's not a reward, it's a relief for predatory student loans applied to people at a time where society yelled "get a college degree or you'll never get a good job" into their ears day after day.' I got the same loans but get no relief. I am not mad at the people getting the relief, I am angry at the government for choosing favorites from people that all suffered in the same way and making me and others pay for it; In what is clearly a political stunt. I say this as one that votes democrat. While i am for government services that help the poorest among us; especially kids, People pulling themselves up by their bootstraps is what makes a capitalist society work. It's what has lifted more people out of poverty than any economic system in the history of the world.

falcolas 4y ago
Knocking off 25% of a loan with compounding interest is vastly different than "pay all expenses in perpetuity for a selection of people, ~40% of the population forever". Conflating one with another is not arguing in good faith, IMO. And frankly, that would be awesome. Did you know that about 40% of the population in the US is unemployed, voluntarily or involuntarily? The proposal is basically UBI, and that's perfectly fine by me. EDIT: And why is it fine by me? Because I will eventually be one of those unemployed. Either intentionally or unintentionally, depending on how the die rolls. I'd love to know I won't be forced to panhandle or take up a menial job with a body destroyed by time just to put a roof over my head and food in my body.
- wonderwonder 4y ago
  Why is it not comparable? Why is there a difference, in both cases certain people are getting selected for free money and the rest are being accused of being self centered and complaining while being forced to pay for it. A Ubi would be the death of capitalism and in turn the United States into a pauper nation.

falcolas 4y ago

Knocking off 25% of a loan with compounding interest is vastly different than "pay all expenses in perpetuity for a selection of people, ~40% of the population forever". Conflating one with another is not arguing in good faith, IMO. And frankly, that would be awesome. Did you know that about 40% of the population in the US is unemployed, voluntarily or involuntarily? The proposal is basically UBI, and that's perfectly fine by me. EDIT: And why is it fine by me? Because I will eventually be one of those unemployed. Either intentionally or unintentionally, depending on how the die rolls. I'd love to know I won't be forced to panhandle or take up a menial job with a body destroyed by time just to put a roof over my head and food in my body.

wonderwonder 4y ago
Why is it not comparable? Why is there a difference, in both cases certain people are getting selected for free money and the rest are being accused of being self centered and complaining while being forced to pay for it. A Ubi would be the death of capitalism and in turn the United States into a pauper nation.