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Here is a good quote from a State Dept. diplomat: >One diplomat put it this way: “Generally speaking, we shouldn’t be employing the same kind of tactics that o

Here is a good quote from a State Dept. diplomat: >One diplomat put it this way: “Generally speaking, we shouldn’t be employing the same kind of tactics that our adversaries are using because the bottom line is we have the moral high ground. We are a society that is built on a certain set of values. We promote those values around the world and when we use tactics like those, it just undermines our argument about who we are.” This is my position as well. Going forward in a world where more and more of what we hear and even see can be fake, trust will become more important. Trust is hard to build and easy to break. I understand the need to reach out to hesitant populations, and the desire to advance our national interests through persuasion and propaganda. However, actual lying, fake accounts, and disinformation that is deployed in a blanket fashion will be a long-term detriment to our government's credibility. In shorter form: Bias and "targeted messaging" is one thing. Literally fake people and lies are another. We should act better than our adversaries, because we are better.

stefantalpalaru 4y ago
mistrial9 4y ago
US citizen here - I believe that "we" is not possible, due to structural associations, misaligned incentives and tension between social forces. "We" America is not one thing.. the dollar and the vote and Bill of Rights are unifying, but not completely. Meanwhile, there are intelligent actors in every language group, despite no-dollar, no-vote and no-Bill of Rights. A system of systems has to have flexibility to evolve; calling one team uniform as "better" is just more of the same
CyanBird 4y ago
> We should act better than our adversaries, because we are better While I "appreciate the candor", it is ofc "hilarious" that there are still people like you out there Before you write such blatant naivety, I would recommend you to at least read Killing Hope by Blum, you feelings of candor and emotional need of belonging clearly lack any sort of historical foundation
- unethical_ban 4y ago
  Self revelling nihilism is almost as disgusting as blind nationalism. Get out of the mud.

stefantalpalaru 4y ago

mistrial9 4y ago

US citizen here - I believe that "we" is not possible, due to structural associations, misaligned incentives and tension between social forces. "We" America is not one thing.. the dollar and the vote and Bill of Rights are unifying, but not completely. Meanwhile, there are intelligent actors in every language group, despite no-dollar, no-vote and no-Bill of Rights. A system of systems has to have flexibility to evolve; calling one team uniform as "better" is just more of the same

CyanBird 4y ago

> We should act better than our adversaries, because we are better While I "appreciate the candor", it is ofc "hilarious" that there are still people like you out there Before you write such blatant naivety, I would recommend you to at least read Killing Hope by Blum, you feelings of candor and emotional need of belonging clearly lack any sort of historical foundation

unethical_ban 4y ago
Self revelling nihilism is almost as disgusting as blind nationalism. Get out of the mud.