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if you read the actual text it ends with the one person who got the most out of us was a highly aggressive, very smart, very confident woman I guess they want

• marquis 15y ago
  The poster was clearly not discriminating. Reading this from a female perspective he was just telling facts, and I don't see this as HR's problem either. We women need to learn to negotiate, and learn how to do this while maintaining the need for social inclusion. There are still a lot more men in the tech business which does affect the manner in which you discuss money and it's hard even for me to negotiate (and I've been in business for years). It's a matter of telling your social-brain to shut up and put your personal-survival-brain first, maybe. I don't see this as a gender issue so much as a personality-type issue, it's secondary that many women happen to have the personality-type where social concerns come first. When clients ask me for a discount we'll almost always give it, but I'll be much happier to work with a client who approaches the matter in a sociable way rather than a direct request for a discount (I find it tasteless, even though the money-brain side of me completely understands what is happening). Just a side note: I have male employees who also suck at asking for raises.
• rmc 15y ago
  I read that as being "Look women! You are not shackled by your sex! C'mon, you can do it! Haggle more!"