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>the stereotype of a teenage loser posting from their mom's basement was laughably true Let's not think that we on HN are much better

site-packages1 4y ago
It’s somewhat self-serving to think this, but my inference after spending time on this site is definitely the opposite.
- phillipcarter 4y ago
  When that subreddit exploded in size, it also included a lot of people who weren't actually "anti-work", but using it as an outlet to complain about and discuss employee abuse and extremely low wages to the point of quitting. And the mod also clarified she works 20+ hours/week in addition to being a full-time student, which is hardly a loser-teenager stereotype being peddled here. She clearly had no media training and the folks at Fox took advantage of that, though.
  - verisimilitudes 4y ago
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        fabbari 4y ago
        What she decides to call herself his her own choice. We could go down the sex vs gender debate, but I think it's much simpler than that: I don't care - I think there is much more to a person than what their birth sex and their chosen gender is to make it something I want to take issue with. Since it doesn't impact you - at all - why do you even care? Let people use the pronouns they want and identify with whatever gender they feel more comfortable with and give them the courtesy to address them in a way that makes them feel welcome. It's easy, give it a try.
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treis 4y ago
Nah that's ridiculous. I am probably somewhere around the average level of accomplishment here and there's a decent chance that you've interacted with my code at some point. I'm also married, have traveled the world, have a kid, and a home of my own. My life experience is way way way ahead of the mod I'm talking about. And in the grand scheme of HN that's really not that much. We have people who have actual legitimate accomplishments like creating widely used software or founding businesses.
- cowtools 4y ago
  Yeah but there are also a lot of losers like me here so it averages out
scottLobster 4y ago
Please, HN is intellectual paradise compared to reddit. I once tried to get into a debate on reddit about whether China was the next rising superpower or not. I pointed out China's demographic issues, how the developed world has largely turned against them in sentiment, how they're dependent on the outside world for food and energy, etc. The response I got? "Lol people have been saying China's going to collapse for decades and it hasn't happened yet lol" Oh and I got downvoted while that response got up-voted. I basically became a full time lurker in reddit after that experience. Complete waste of 15 minutes typing out an actual argument. Contrast that to HN where even when people have a misinformed argument they at least make an effort to engage, and I've actually been put in my place a few times with new information/well reasoned arguments that weren't just pulled out of someone's ass.
- JohnBooty 4y ago
  I once tried to get into a debate on reddit about whether China was the next rising superpower Some subreddits are goldmines for particular topics. I know at least one that's pretty good for that sort of discussion. But in general, it's best to take the temperature (ie, lurk) a bit in a particular subreddit before even attempting such a thing. The default subreddits are uh, let's say, flippant at best.
- robotnikman 4y ago
  The fact that downvotes require you to be on HN and get some upvotes first certainly helps.

site-packages1 4y ago

It’s somewhat self-serving to think this, but my inference after spending time on this site is definitely the opposite.

phillipcarter 4y ago
When that subreddit exploded in size, it also included a lot of people who weren't actually "anti-work", but using it as an outlet to complain about and discuss employee abuse and extremely low wages to the point of quitting. And the mod also clarified she works 20+ hours/week in addition to being a full-time student, which is hardly a loser-teenager stereotype being peddled here. She clearly had no media training and the folks at Fox took advantage of that, though.
- verisimilitudes 4y ago
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  - hezralig 4y ago
    - verisimilitudes 4y ago
      - fabbari 4y ago
        What she decides to call herself his her own choice. We could go down the sex vs gender debate, but I think it's much simpler than that: I don't care - I think there is much more to a person than what their birth sex and their chosen gender is to make it something I want to take issue with. Since it doesn't impact you - at all - why do you even care? Let people use the pronouns they want and identify with whatever gender they feel more comfortable with and give them the courtesy to address them in a way that makes them feel welcome. It's easy, give it a try.
        verisimilitudes 4y ago
        phillipcarter 4y ago
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        bigbillheck 4y ago
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treis 4y ago

Nah that's ridiculous. I am probably somewhere around the average level of accomplishment here and there's a decent chance that you've interacted with my code at some point. I'm also married, have traveled the world, have a kid, and a home of my own. My life experience is way way way ahead of the mod I'm talking about. And in the grand scheme of HN that's really not that much. We have people who have actual legitimate accomplishments like creating widely used software or founding businesses.

cowtools 4y ago
Yeah but there are also a lot of losers like me here so it averages out

scottLobster 4y ago

Please, HN is intellectual paradise compared to reddit. I once tried to get into a debate on reddit about whether China was the next rising superpower or not. I pointed out China's demographic issues, how the developed world has largely turned against them in sentiment, how they're dependent on the outside world for food and energy, etc. The response I got? "Lol people have been saying China's going to collapse for decades and it hasn't happened yet lol" Oh and I got downvoted while that response got up-voted. I basically became a full time lurker in reddit after that experience. Complete waste of 15 minutes typing out an actual argument. Contrast that to HN where even when people have a misinformed argument they at least make an effort to engage, and I've actually been put in my place a few times with new information/well reasoned arguments that weren't just pulled out of someone's ass.

JohnBooty 4y ago
I once tried to get into a debate on reddit about whether China was the next rising superpower Some subreddits are goldmines for particular topics. I know at least one that's pretty good for that sort of discussion. But in general, it's best to take the temperature (ie, lurk) a bit in a particular subreddit before even attempting such a thing. The default subreddits are uh, let's say, flippant at best.
robotnikman 4y ago
The fact that downvotes require you to be on HN and get some upvotes first certainly helps.