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There is a different explanation about the 'power posters' - not that they are "insane", but that it's their job. They get good amounts of money for doing what

There is a different explanation about the 'power posters' - not that they are "insane", but that it's their job. They get good amounts of money for doing what they do. As an addition, for the extreme cases it's most likely not a single person, but multiple people, posting under the same name.

yew 4y ago
Some of them probably are effectively paid advertising teams. That doesn't really explain some of the people you used to get on forums though. Why pay someone to write 24/7 micro-serial "Transformers" fan-fiction?
- bombcar 4y ago
  Anyone who has been on the internet for awhile quickly realizes that the “all the posters I don’t like are paid shills” argument doesn’t hold up well at all. It’s often a cope - “my side/the good side would obviously be winning if it weren’t for these paid shills”. There are way too many true believers who are terminally online and you can find almost anything out there.
  - yew 4y ago
    Eh. It can happen. I know someone who's paid to moderate [1] a "grassroots" brand subreddit. It's just that "you're not real" is easier to believe than "you genuinely think Donald Trump is the prophesied Jewish messiah." Barring conclusive evidence (which rarely [2]) people gravitate in one direction. I'd guess it's a mix, with a little straight money, a lot of obsession, and a middling amount of compensated cat herding. [1] The playbook being basically "discuss reasonable criticism, remove unreasonable criticism" ie "nobody talk too much about that battery fire, but don't make it look suspicious." [2] "On the Internet, you know everybody who disagrees with you is a dog."
  - tablespoon 4y ago
    > Anyone who has been on the internet for awhile quickly realizes that the “all the posters I don’t like are paid shills” argument doesn’t hold up well at all. It’s often a cope - “my side/the good side would obviously be winning if it weren’t for these paid shills”. > There are way too many true believers who are terminally online and you can find almost anything out there. There doesn't have to be a single explanation, though. It can be paid shills and obsessives.
  - mattgreenrocks 4y ago
    Weird Internet used to be a few places. Now it (more precisely, the ideas) is everywhere, and reported on as if it is perfectly normal, because "journalism." This ends up legitimizing it further, even if it is painted as weird, as some ideas benefit from any sort of exposure ("the man is oppressing us by painting it as bad!"). Terminally online users are the problem. Until we regard their neurosis, addiction, and proclivity for unreality as a real problem, this will only get worse. Pulling on this string will drag several much harder problems along with it, such as equitable access to mental health care.
- the_doctah 4y ago
  Transformers is not nearly niche enough to warrant being used here
philippejara 4y ago
There's another side to it as well, the people who want it to be their job, and just see it as another avenue to deliver contest similar to a stream.
genericone 4y ago
Very ironically/interestingly, this was case for the big anti-american posts from mainland China: Infamously anti-west personality Sima Nan: "Being anti-American is work while visiting the U.S. is life" https://youtu.be/Q0y84Oi3VW8 https://youtu.be/Q0y84Oi3VW8 Short summary, his wife and child are U.S citizens, and he visits them often, but his entire career is made up of bashing the west, western values, and putting the ccp on a pedestal, and he's made a small fortune on this career... until his turn came.

yew 4y ago

Some of them probably are effectively paid advertising teams. That doesn't really explain some of the people you used to get on forums though. Why pay someone to write 24/7 micro-serial "Transformers" fan-fiction?

bombcar 4y ago
Anyone who has been on the internet for awhile quickly realizes that the “all the posters I don’t like are paid shills” argument doesn’t hold up well at all. It’s often a cope - “my side/the good side would obviously be winning if it weren’t for these paid shills”. There are way too many true believers who are terminally online and you can find almost anything out there.
- yew 4y ago
  Eh. It can happen. I know someone who's paid to moderate [1] a "grassroots" brand subreddit. It's just that "you're not real" is easier to believe than "you genuinely think Donald Trump is the prophesied Jewish messiah." Barring conclusive evidence (which rarely [2]) people gravitate in one direction. I'd guess it's a mix, with a little straight money, a lot of obsession, and a middling amount of compensated cat herding. [1] The playbook being basically "discuss reasonable criticism, remove unreasonable criticism" ie "nobody talk too much about that battery fire, but don't make it look suspicious." [2] "On the Internet, you know everybody who disagrees with you is a dog."
- tablespoon 4y ago
  > Anyone who has been on the internet for awhile quickly realizes that the “all the posters I don’t like are paid shills” argument doesn’t hold up well at all. It’s often a cope - “my side/the good side would obviously be winning if it weren’t for these paid shills”. > There are way too many true believers who are terminally online and you can find almost anything out there. There doesn't have to be a single explanation, though. It can be paid shills and obsessives.
- mattgreenrocks 4y ago
  Weird Internet used to be a few places. Now it (more precisely, the ideas) is everywhere, and reported on as if it is perfectly normal, because "journalism." This ends up legitimizing it further, even if it is painted as weird, as some ideas benefit from any sort of exposure ("the man is oppressing us by painting it as bad!"). Terminally online users are the problem. Until we regard their neurosis, addiction, and proclivity for unreality as a real problem, this will only get worse. Pulling on this string will drag several much harder problems along with it, such as equitable access to mental health care.
the_doctah 4y ago
Transformers is not nearly niche enough to warrant being used here

philippejara 4y ago

There's another side to it as well, the people who want it to be their job, and just see it as another avenue to deliver contest similar to a stream.

genericone 4y ago

Very ironically/interestingly, this was case for the big anti-american posts from mainland China: Infamously anti-west personality Sima Nan: "Being anti-American is work while visiting the U.S. is life" https://youtu.be/Q0y84Oi3VW8 https://youtu.be/Q0y84Oi3VW8 Short summary, his wife and child are U.S citizens, and he visits them often, but his entire career is made up of bashing the west, western values, and putting the ccp on a pedestal, and he's made a small fortune on this career... until his turn came.