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no, it is exactly culture vs nature. we can cultivate a high trust society in which altrusism is the norm, or we can cultivate a low trust society where selfis

no, it is exactly culture vs nature. we can cultivate a high trust society in which altrusism is the norm, or we can cultivate a low trust society where selfishness is the norm. I chose the airport examples to match the parent observations. I've seen other examples, for example driving patterns. I remember the one summer (actually about a 2 week period) when Minnesota when from "almost no-one cuts in line to get off the freeway" to "everyone tries to push their way through traffic". And just like that, 30 years of high trust is gone. The famous Marshmallow Test. Do the kids have high trust or low trust in the authority figure to give them 2 marshmallows? On a positive example, the (US) military puts a lot of emphasis on high-trust. We are sadly living in an age where the increasing power of money (as "portable reputation") vs reputation based on people respecting what you've contributed to society heavily rewards low trust. Because it doesn't matter as much how you got the money, it just matters that you have it. That, plus the unequal wealth distribution, creates envy and distrust. And money scales to current population levels. Personal reputation does not.

todorus 4y ago
"The famous Marshmallow Test. Do the kids have high trust or low trust in the authority figure to give them 2 marshmallows?" Not a good example as those were about the child having the discipline to wait the needed time for the second marshmallow. Trust wasn't measured. You can argue that the kid needs trust to get to the discipline part, but then you're not talking about that experiment anymore, and the burden of proof increases significantly. Also it has been debunked as an indicator of discipline and later succes in life, and has now become a famous example of the reproduction problem psychology is reckoning with. I would just generally stay away from it to proof a point. It will only weaken your position if someone familiar with it. Sorry for being off topic here, but it's popular use is starting to irk me
moistly 4y ago
And how do you cultivate a high trust society? I’d argue: “propaganda” — aka publicly-funded social-positive television (TikTok?) videos like Sesame Street; pro-social school/classroom programming; worker safety standard posters and helpline numbers; a ton of messaging about how to behave and how to expect others to behave, about safety, about support, about good decisions (buckle up!), etc. We have to invest in our society.

todorus 4y ago

"The famous Marshmallow Test. Do the kids have high trust or low trust in the authority figure to give them 2 marshmallows?" Not a good example as those were about the child having the discipline to wait the needed time for the second marshmallow. Trust wasn't measured. You can argue that the kid needs trust to get to the discipline part, but then you're not talking about that experiment anymore, and the burden of proof increases significantly. Also it has been debunked as an indicator of discipline and later succes in life, and has now become a famous example of the reproduction problem psychology is reckoning with. I would just generally stay away from it to proof a point. It will only weaken your position if someone familiar with it. Sorry for being off topic here, but it's popular use is starting to irk me

moistly 4y ago

And how do you cultivate a high trust society? I’d argue: “propaganda” — aka publicly-funded social-positive television (TikTok?) videos like Sesame Street; pro-social school/classroom programming; worker safety standard posters and helpline numbers; a ton of messaging about how to behave and how to expect others to behave, about safety, about support, about good decisions (buckle up!), etc. We have to invest in our society.