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Ukrainians in occupied territories seem to get murdered, tortured and raped. So yeah I think it’s fair to say they’d be better off without the Russians.

• WastingMyTime89 4y ago
  It’s a war. What did you expect exactly? Now that the Ukrainians are taking back territories I fully expect the purging related stories to be on their way and it’s not going to look pretty as usual. Wars are disgusting affairs. You can’t base your analysis on the reported exactions committed by one side. That’s just setting you as an easy target for propaganda.
  • ptr 4y ago
    1. You're contradicting yourself: in your third point, you say that I shouldn't trust that civilians are getting murdered, raped and tortured. But in your first point, you say that I should be expecting such behavior. 2. I'd expect there to not be a war to begin with. Russia 100% controls this, and can stop whenever they want. 3. War doesn't have to be done in the most brutal way possible. 4. "the purging related stories to be on their way and it’s not going to look pretty as usual" I don't understand what this means. I'm getting very strong pro-Russian vibes from your comments. Not going to reply anymore -- real people are dying.
    • WastingMyTime89 4y ago
      I never said that you shouldn’t trust that civilians are being raped, tortured and murdered. They most definitely are. That’s the reality of war. It’s always brutal. There is no such thing as a clean war. I said focusing on that makes you analysing conflicts poorly and expose you to be manipulated. I am most definitely not pro-Russian. I am very much pro the interests of my own country first however.