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For all intents and purposes, a M-Series MacBook running Parallels is the best Windows laptop you can buy. I say this as a Windows productivity maximalist. It’

by dereg 4y ago

For all intents and purposes, a M-Series MacBook running Parallels is the best Windows laptop you can buy. I say this as a Windows productivity maximalist. It’s 2022 and Windows touchpads and touchpad drivers don’t hold a candle to my 2011 MacBook.

political12345 4y ago
- fredsted 4y ago
  Using a mouse for an extended period makes my hand hurt
- yurishimo 4y ago
  I’m not a designer. I use a trackpad full time, even on desktop (on macOS). For me, it’s a couple of things. First, gestures are awesome and not easily reproducible with a mouse. My keyboard is full of shortcuts for other things, I don’t want to take up hotkeys for something my trackpad can do. Second, it’s consistent across all my computing devices. My laptop experience is identical to the desktop experience and I don’t have to carry a mouse in my backpack for my laptop. Finally, my hands are closer, and on the same plane, as my keyboard. With a mouse, my hand has to move from a small claw shape back to flat for typing. With a trackpad, my hand stays flatter. Bonus, I need less space for computing. I know you can adjust the sensitivity for mice, and even for trackpads, but in practice, for me personally, I tend to need way more space when using a mouse. I still play computer games so it’s not like I don’t own one, but for productivity, I’ll use a trackpad when possible.
- denkmoon 4y ago
  >very interested to hear a convincing argument for having a trackpad as none exists in my universe Good for you, I hope your egocentrism continues to serve you well. You really can't think of a reason why someone might prefer using an alternative input method?
- deleted 4y ago
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- adamwk 4y ago
  Wouldn’t precision matter more to a graphic designer than a developer?
Panzer04 4y ago
I must admit, I don't really run into any of these problems that people call out on laptops I use. What, specifically, is the problem with touchpads on windows?
- Gigachad 4y ago
  You can’t specifically point things out. It’s just a general “doesn’t feel right”. Some specific issues though I have seen is general lack of responsiveness or missing the first bit of movement and no gestures or gestures that just don’t work as well.
- dereg 4y ago
  A few things off the top of my head: - Mac touchpads have near-perfect wrist detection so you almost never get an errant input. - There is virtually no input lag. It’s especially crucial when scrolling long pages. On a Mac, you can flick the touchpad and the page will scroll all the way down. - Furthermore, they perfectly recognize up to 10 fingers. There’s a lot of great software that allows you to set shortcuts to different mouse gestures like 3-,4-, 5-finger swipes, tip-taps, and more. - There’s a really smooth acceleration curve that allows you to be extremely precise with the mouse while also allowing it to span great distances when needed. Like the other poster said, there are so many subtle differences that amount to a gargantuan delta between the two experiences.
  - prmoustache 4y ago
    I don't know what is a "wrist detection". Nobody put his wrist on a touchpad anyway, there is simply no practicable way to do that when operating a laptop, even when trying to! I don't perceive any lag on both my thinkpad and my pro admitedly crappy Dell laptop on Linux when scrolling anything and I don't recall having felt a significant difference with windows when it was last fired up or on Mac laptops I tried in the past. Most of the difference usually came from a difference in the speed and acceleration settings but these are configurables. Can't speak about gestures because that is something most people don't use.
    - 4y ago
bmitc 4y ago
I’d say that a Windows 11 computer running WSL2 is the best computer you can buy. Benefits of a high-level OS with seamless integration with real Linux. I only ever miss two apps from macOS: Preview and LaTeXiT.

by dereg 4y ago

political12345 4y ago

fredsted 4y ago
Using a mouse for an extended period makes my hand hurt
yurishimo 4y ago
I’m not a designer. I use a trackpad full time, even on desktop (on macOS). For me, it’s a couple of things. First, gestures are awesome and not easily reproducible with a mouse. My keyboard is full of shortcuts for other things, I don’t want to take up hotkeys for something my trackpad can do. Second, it’s consistent across all my computing devices. My laptop experience is identical to the desktop experience and I don’t have to carry a mouse in my backpack for my laptop. Finally, my hands are closer, and on the same plane, as my keyboard. With a mouse, my hand has to move from a small claw shape back to flat for typing. With a trackpad, my hand stays flatter. Bonus, I need less space for computing. I know you can adjust the sensitivity for mice, and even for trackpads, but in practice, for me personally, I tend to need way more space when using a mouse. I still play computer games so it’s not like I don’t own one, but for productivity, I’ll use a trackpad when possible.
denkmoon 4y ago
>very interested to hear a convincing argument for having a trackpad as none exists in my universe Good for you, I hope your egocentrism continues to serve you well. You really can't think of a reason why someone might prefer using an alternative input method?
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adamwk 4y ago
Wouldn’t precision matter more to a graphic designer than a developer?

Panzer04 4y ago

I must admit, I don't really run into any of these problems that people call out on laptops I use. What, specifically, is the problem with touchpads on windows?

Gigachad 4y ago
You can’t specifically point things out. It’s just a general “doesn’t feel right”. Some specific issues though I have seen is general lack of responsiveness or missing the first bit of movement and no gestures or gestures that just don’t work as well.
dereg 4y ago
A few things off the top of my head: - Mac touchpads have near-perfect wrist detection so you almost never get an errant input. - There is virtually no input lag. It’s especially crucial when scrolling long pages. On a Mac, you can flick the touchpad and the page will scroll all the way down. - Furthermore, they perfectly recognize up to 10 fingers. There’s a lot of great software that allows you to set shortcuts to different mouse gestures like 3-,4-, 5-finger swipes, tip-taps, and more. - There’s a really smooth acceleration curve that allows you to be extremely precise with the mouse while also allowing it to span great distances when needed. Like the other poster said, there are so many subtle differences that amount to a gargantuan delta between the two experiences.
- prmoustache 4y ago
  I don't know what is a "wrist detection". Nobody put his wrist on a touchpad anyway, there is simply no practicable way to do that when operating a laptop, even when trying to! I don't perceive any lag on both my thinkpad and my pro admitedly crappy Dell laptop on Linux when scrolling anything and I don't recall having felt a significant difference with windows when it was last fired up or on Mac laptops I tried in the past. Most of the difference usually came from a difference in the speed and acceleration settings but these are configurables. Can't speak about gestures because that is something most people don't use.
  - 4y ago

bmitc 4y ago

I’d say that a Windows 11 computer running WSL2 is the best computer you can buy. Benefits of a high-level OS with seamless integration with real Linux. I only ever miss two apps from macOS: Preview and LaTeXiT.