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I'm into tech as a hobby, not as a career, so take this with a grain of salt: Android ate every other mobile OS excluding iOS, in part because it was OS and cl

I'm into tech as a hobby, not as a career, so take this with a grain of salt: Android ate every other mobile OS excluding iOS, in part because it was OS and close-enough to free for OEMs. I can't even think of a closed-source webserver off-hand. Even the fine people at Redmond had to offer Linux support on Azure. The vast majority of the web runs of FLOSS. FLOSS wins when working with OEMs. Only with consumers does the new-shiny-proprietary win.

pjmlp 4y ago
Which Android vendor is successful in any meaninful way shipping bare bones AOSP? Of course free beer is great for OEMs.
- mburee 4y ago
  Android without the closed source Google parts is pretty useless for the average consumer. E.g. just having each app open a persistent connection in the background for it to receive notifications instead of one centralized one is pretty bad for battery life.
- scarface74 4y ago
  There is a little country called China that you might have heard of that has plenty of manufacturers selling AOSP based phones with no Google software.
  - pjmlp 4y ago
    Yeah, they also sell plenty of pirated Windows copies.
- 29083011397778 4y ago
  The Free part of Android is part of the reason it won. Windows Phone OEMs couldn't modify the system, while OEMs like Samsung could (and at the time, did) heavily modify the OS. That's presumably why my 2016 Civic used Android under the hood instead of QNX. The latter would be faster and more responsive, but Android is free, easy enough to force into the shape Honda needed, and possibly even gave them an easier time finding people familiar with the more inner workings of the OS.
SyneRyder 4y ago
> I can't even think of a closed-source webserver off-hand. Microsoft IIS? Still about 6% of web servers & in 5th place, according to September 2022 stats. Though that's a huge crash from 2018 when it was the #1 largest share of websites (40%) according to Netcraft. https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/web_server https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/web_server https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2018/08/24/august-2018-web-server-survey.html https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2018/08/24/august-2018-we...

pjmlp 4y ago

Which Android vendor is successful in any meaninful way shipping bare bones AOSP? Of course free beer is great for OEMs.

mburee 4y ago
Android without the closed source Google parts is pretty useless for the average consumer. E.g. just having each app open a persistent connection in the background for it to receive notifications instead of one centralized one is pretty bad for battery life.
scarface74 4y ago
There is a little country called China that you might have heard of that has plenty of manufacturers selling AOSP based phones with no Google software.
- pjmlp 4y ago
  Yeah, they also sell plenty of pirated Windows copies.
29083011397778 4y ago
The Free part of Android is part of the reason it won. Windows Phone OEMs couldn't modify the system, while OEMs like Samsung could (and at the time, did) heavily modify the OS. That's presumably why my 2016 Civic used Android under the hood instead of QNX. The latter would be faster and more responsive, but Android is free, easy enough to force into the shape Honda needed, and possibly even gave them an easier time finding people familiar with the more inner workings of the OS.

SyneRyder 4y ago

> I can't even think of a closed-source webserver off-hand. Microsoft IIS? Still about 6% of web servers & in 5th place, according to September 2022 stats. Though that's a huge crash from 2018 when it was the #1 largest share of websites (40%) according to Netcraft. https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/web_server https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/web_server https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2018/08/24/august-2018-web-server-survey.html https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2018/08/24/august-2018-we...