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> The problem is many millennials and Gen Z have already given up on social security, do not believe in it in the future, and will not vote to keep a dead or di

> The problem is many millennials and Gen Z have already given up on social security, do not believe in it in the future, and will not vote to keep a dead or dieing SS program alive when they themselves had abandoned it long ago. Good. Let's be brutally honest and ask who's really to blame for this.

pessimizer 4y ago
All the people who say that Social Security is in danger usually then elaborately explain that it's in danger because they themselves are going to try their best to dismantle and defund it.
- infamouscow 4y ago
  I don't think Gen Z is against SS. I think Gen Z is against a government riddled with incompetent clowns that mismanage SS. Until all of those idiots are gone, Gen Z doesn't care.
  - charcircuit 4y ago
    I'm a part of gen Z and am against SS. Being forced to give old people a percentage of my income is literally slavery and is extremely unethical.
    - heartbreak 4y ago
      > is literally slavery I recommend a refresher on “literal slavery.”
triceratops 4y ago
> Let's be brutally honest and ask who's really to blame for this. The people who designed SS to be funded out of payroll taxes instead of corporate taxes, buybacks, and dividends. No seriously, hear me out. As the economy became more efficient, fewer and fewer highly-paid workers are needed to work in it. This leads to overall lower SS tax per head being collected as the economy becomes more productive. What you really want is for the growth of the economy to be captured in supporting seniors - so tax the indicators of that growth. Unfortunately they had real, political reasons for setting it up that way. Funding it with payroll taxes was the only way to get the bill passed, and ensure it wouldn't be gutted. (I'm paraphrasing from books I've read). And the people who paid into the program would feel morally entitled to receive benefits, and thus would always support the program.

pessimizer 4y ago

All the people who say that Social Security is in danger usually then elaborately explain that it's in danger because they themselves are going to try their best to dismantle and defund it.

infamouscow 4y ago
I don't think Gen Z is against SS. I think Gen Z is against a government riddled with incompetent clowns that mismanage SS. Until all of those idiots are gone, Gen Z doesn't care.
- charcircuit 4y ago
  I'm a part of gen Z and am against SS. Being forced to give old people a percentage of my income is literally slavery and is extremely unethical.
  - heartbreak 4y ago
    > is literally slavery I recommend a refresher on “literal slavery.”

triceratops 4y ago

> Let's be brutally honest and ask who's really to blame for this. The people who designed SS to be funded out of payroll taxes instead of corporate taxes, buybacks, and dividends. No seriously, hear me out. As the economy became more efficient, fewer and fewer highly-paid workers are needed to work in it. This leads to overall lower SS tax per head being collected as the economy becomes more productive. What you really want is for the growth of the economy to be captured in supporting seniors - so tax the indicators of that growth. Unfortunately they had real, political reasons for setting it up that way. Funding it with payroll taxes was the only way to get the bill passed, and ensure it wouldn't be gutted. (I'm paraphrasing from books I've read). And the people who paid into the program would feel morally entitled to receive benefits, and thus would always support the program.