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> Look at any modern business. A lot of employees will have studied something in humanities. And if businesses didn't require 4 year degrees for jobs that don
by Eji1700 4y ago
> Look at any modern business. A lot of employees will have studied something in humanities.
And if businesses didn't require 4 year degrees for jobs that don't need them, they wouldn't.
We literally gatekeep careers based on your ability to finish a 4+ year $10k+ degree program, and then you actually get the job and essentially nothing you learned was useful.
The number of coworkers i've met with degrees outside their career is basically the majority (as i work outside of STEM), and their skills mostly correlate to how well they were trained on the job. There's PLENTY that never needed college, or that college didnt change jack about their poor skill set (in fact reinforced it).
The people I know who are making the most are doctors/lawyers (and thats a whole OTHER story), and then right after that are the trades (mostly union workers) who never went to college.
I'd much rather see a proper focus on the public education we already have (and varies WILDLY in quality depending on where you are) than basically saying "well we're going to require you to go to school until you're 18, and then we're going to say that no matter how well you excelled there you're only worth minimum wage unless you force yourself through college, and then get a job where you're useless until they finish the on the job training."
A large majority of the economy is based on jobs that just do not require a 4 year degree (MAYBE 2, but even then it should just be a credit requirement). I'm all for better educating the populace, but accomplishing this by just kneecapping those with life circumstances that make a 4 year degree difficult isn't helping.
- jackcosgrove 4y agoCredential inflation is desirable for governments because being enrolled in some kind of tertiary program suppresses the unemployment numbers. If you can learn a skill that makes getting hired easier, all the better! We won't see widespread de-escalation of credentials until there are labor shortages, at which point it's no longer in anyone's interest to keep potential workers sidelined in school.
- ilammy 4y agoMoreover, not only you’re not counted as “unemployed” while attaining a degree — after you get your degree, you’re left with a hefty debt: a pretty nice incentive to not stay unemployed!
- trinovantes 4y agoI think the 4 year degree requirement is more of a proxy for ability to learn and adapt It's hard to shake off the bias that a post-secondary graduate would be more likely to be a quick learner than a high school graduate even if in reality they're effectively the same
- synu 4y agoIt is probably most effective as a proxy for social class.