The virtual machine comments make a great deal of sense to me. Virtual machines bring an enormous amount of power and foregoing that power because some contain

The virtual machine comments make a great deal of sense to me. Virtual machines bring an enormous amount of power and foregoing that power because some container orchestration system is oblivious to their existence is deeply foolish. My dream is VMs as easy to manage (build, deploy, etc.) as containers, hosting containers, and managed across a cluster of hardware by an orchestration system. Trying to make container orchestration do the things VMs do with ease produces nothing but pain and waste. kris-nova: yes, fully integrate VM management and fill this yawning chasm. There is enormous demand for this, naysayers notwithstanding.