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Television isn’t my primary choice for media, but when I do I just unplug it when I’m done. 0W standby. Same for basically everything other than the refrigerato

Television isn’t my primary choice for media, but when I do I just unplug it when I’m done. 0W standby. Same for basically everything other than the refrigerator and wifi.

baq 4y ago
You don’t want to do this with an OLED TV though.
- thfuran 4y ago
  I don't want to do that with anything. It's ridiculous to have to go through the trouble of doing that.
- ciupicri 4y ago
  Why not?
  - ErneX 4y ago
    OLEDs do pixel refreshing every once in a while while turned off, but they require power to do this obviously.
- tintedfireglass 4y ago
  Why? does turning off an oled TV cause problems?
  - baq 4y ago
    Yes. OLEDs run a short matrix refresh cycle every few working hours and a long one every hundred or so after you put them to standby; you probably won’t break anything, but the TV quality will degrade quicker. (Not sure about the not breaking part, though ;) I leave mine powered on.)
    - MichaelCollins 4y ago
      It needs power or it degrades faster? Sounds like a great reason for me to never buy an OLED tv.
      - baq 4y ago
        There are plenty of reasons to not get one and they don't matter since for me no other TV technology even remotely makes sense due to picture quality being so vastly superior than anything except plasma.
        paganel 4y ago
        > vastly superior than anything except plasma. One more reason for me to cherish my 2011 plasma TV. Also, it has none of that smart-tv non-sense, which is a big plus.
        GuB-42 4y ago
        Since the topic is power draw, it is important to note that plasma TVs require much more power than LCD and OLED, at least when they are turned on. By how much is not trivial but it is usually at least double for a similar sized screen. Of course, if your new TV is using 25W in standby, it doesn't really matter, but I am assuming something reasonable here.
        bscphil 4y ago
        > my 2011 plasma TV My experience, having now bought several used plasmas from about that era, is that they tend to have extremely bright black points, comparable to a ~2015 mid-tier LCD screen. Fairly cheap modern LCDs seem to have superior image quality with sharper pixels as well. Is this not your experience? Have I just been unlucky and purchased some aging panels? When I got into the market, I was of the impression that plasmas were renowned for their high contrast ratios, but I have been less than impressed. Burn-in is extremely severe as well.
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- ValentineC 4y ago
  I'm seeing videos and articles saying that leaving it on is to let the OLED pixels refresh every 4 hours. How important is it, really? The pixel refresh thing doesn't seem to make any scientific sense to me as a layperson.
  - TingPing 4y ago
    The name is just branding nonsense. The TV just measures the degradation of pixels when not in use and uses that information to compensate.
- m463 4y ago
  I power off my LG OLED via a power strip and it will bug me every so often to run the screen maintenance when I turn it back on
Mindless2112 4y ago
Might be worth finding out whether you're wasting your time. As measured on a Kill-a-Watt, my 2013 LG TV consumes 0.0 watts when on standby.
- MichaelCollins 4y ago
  If you do it right it's hardly a waste of time worth considering. My TV is plugged into an outlet that is controlled by a lightswitch, so I don't need to contort myself around furniture to reach to 'unplug' it. In other situations, I've used a power strip placed so the switch on the strip is easily accessible, sticking out from behind the cabinet. Even if the power draw on this TV is negligible, I think it's a habit worth maintaining because it costs me nothing and it will save me having to reacquire the habit in the future with new appliances. Also part of me feels reassured that technology has not yet rendered me too lazy to use a simple switch.
  - Mindless2112 4y ago
    That is less effort that I was envisioning. But personally I prefer to take the stance of not inviting power vampires into my house.

Television isn’t my primary choice for media, but when I do I just unplug it when I’m done. 0W standby. Same for basically everything other than the refrigerator and wifi.

baq 4y ago

You don’t want to do this with an OLED TV though.

thfuran 4y ago
I don't want to do that with anything. It's ridiculous to have to go through the trouble of doing that.
ciupicri 4y ago
Why not?
- ErneX 4y ago
  OLEDs do pixel refreshing every once in a while while turned off, but they require power to do this obviously.
tintedfireglass 4y ago
Why? does turning off an oled TV cause problems?
- baq 4y ago
  Yes. OLEDs run a short matrix refresh cycle every few working hours and a long one every hundred or so after you put them to standby; you probably won’t break anything, but the TV quality will degrade quicker. (Not sure about the not breaking part, though ;) I leave mine powered on.)
  - MichaelCollins 4y ago
    It needs power or it degrades faster? Sounds like a great reason for me to never buy an OLED tv.
    - baq 4y ago
      There are plenty of reasons to not get one and they don't matter since for me no other TV technology even remotely makes sense due to picture quality being so vastly superior than anything except plasma.
      - paganel 4y ago
        > vastly superior than anything except plasma. One more reason for me to cherish my 2011 plasma TV. Also, it has none of that smart-tv non-sense, which is a big plus.
        GuB-42 4y ago
        Since the topic is power draw, it is important to note that plasma TVs require much more power than LCD and OLED, at least when they are turned on. By how much is not trivial but it is usually at least double for a similar sized screen. Of course, if your new TV is using 25W in standby, it doesn't really matter, but I am assuming something reasonable here.
        bscphil 4y ago
        > my 2011 plasma TV My experience, having now bought several used plasmas from about that era, is that they tend to have extremely bright black points, comparable to a ~2015 mid-tier LCD screen. Fairly cheap modern LCDs seem to have superior image quality with sharper pixels as well. Is this not your experience? Have I just been unlucky and purchased some aging panels? When I got into the market, I was of the impression that plasmas were renowned for their high contrast ratios, but I have been less than impressed. Burn-in is extremely severe as well.
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ValentineC 4y ago
I'm seeing videos and articles saying that leaving it on is to let the OLED pixels refresh every 4 hours. How important is it, really? The pixel refresh thing doesn't seem to make any scientific sense to me as a layperson.
- TingPing 4y ago
  The name is just branding nonsense. The TV just measures the degradation of pixels when not in use and uses that information to compensate.
m463 4y ago
I power off my LG OLED via a power strip and it will bug me every so often to run the screen maintenance when I turn it back on

Mindless2112 4y ago

Might be worth finding out whether you're wasting your time. As measured on a Kill-a-Watt, my 2013 LG TV consumes 0.0 watts when on standby.

MichaelCollins 4y ago
If you do it right it's hardly a waste of time worth considering. My TV is plugged into an outlet that is controlled by a lightswitch, so I don't need to contort myself around furniture to reach to 'unplug' it. In other situations, I've used a power strip placed so the switch on the strip is easily accessible, sticking out from behind the cabinet. Even if the power draw on this TV is negligible, I think it's a habit worth maintaining because it costs me nothing and it will save me having to reacquire the habit in the future with new appliances. Also part of me feels reassured that technology has not yet rendered me too lazy to use a simple switch.
- Mindless2112 4y ago
  That is less effort that I was envisioning. But personally I prefer to take the stance of not inviting power vampires into my house.