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There are mean people everywhere, especially when they can be anonymous. I've been on the internet long enough to remember when corporations weren't the arbiter
by Test0129 4y ago
There are mean people everywhere, especially when they can be anonymous. I've been on the internet long enough to remember when corporations weren't the arbiters of what can and can't be said in games. Back when servers were owned by players.
The DHS has no responsibility to investigate what is most likely an edgy 14 year old saying edgy things in a game. The only thing that will come from this is, indeed people say mean things on the internet, therefore total censorship is the only answer. They will find a few real cases. Things like you pointed out. These will be use for a typical on-brand message about how widespread the phenomenon is. No one wants extremists in their country and all they will have to say is something like "first person shooters are a hot bed for white nationalists" and suddenly we are back to 1991 when we thought that first person shooters caused people to become violent killers. History repeating itself.
This is basically a solution looking for a problem. The particular flavor of radicalization "white nationalism" or whatever is being spammed in the media ahead of an election because it's the current party's boogeyman. It's scary, it sells ad space, and it drives campaign speeches. I'm inclined to believe that the population of these alleged "white nationalists" is a lot smaller. At least until they arbitrarily extend the definition.
I suspect the actual problem is rising inflation, lack of housing, lack of income to afford anything, and the 1000 mile wide chasm between the incomes of congress and the average citizen that are leading to the majority of radicalization. However, this will never be discussed because it implies the government is the problem. When the investigators investigate themselves they always find nothing wrong.
- MichaelCollins 4y ago> I'm inclined to believe that the population of these alleged "white nationalists" is a lot smaller. At least until they arbitrarily extend the definition. Arbitrary extension of definitions is a big part of it. For instance the way the definition of violence has been extended to include silence. This is particularly chilling since "silence is violence" is a flagrant reformulation of "If you're not with us, you're against us." They also like to talk about hateful statements of opinion being violence too, under theory that hateful remarks cause stochastic terrorism. But by the same standard, "silence is violence" is a call to arms against people who are simply trying to live their lives peacefully and not get swept up in a political movement. If being silent is a form of violence, that suggests a justification of violent "self defense" against those who are merely keeping to themselves. Redefining violence is an implicit modification to the rules of engagement.
- jamal-kumar 4y agoI just want people to have the ability to play video games once in a while without hearing some idiot autistically screeching the n word. It's a simple call to civility. Is that so hard to answer?
- jamal-kumar 4y agoI'm specifically referring to the phenomenon of grown ass adults grooming impressionable kids into acting like this. It's a real problem and I'm not surprised it's being looked into, these guys need chris hansen showing up in their kitchen level.
- Test0129 4y agoYou imply they are allegedly grooming these kids to be white nationalists on discord. Discord is a monitored platform. Do you have any evidence of the FBI cracking down on these discords? Actual terrorism falls into the purview of the FBI and given the current administration you'd think they'd be all over using that honeypot as a way to find them. I have yet to see any evidence that the FBI has stopped a discord turning kids into white nationalists so I suspect the problem is not actually the problem you suppose it is, or you and I have very different definitions of what grooming means.
- jamal-kumar 4y agoI really doubt you or I have any insight into active FBI investigations for good reason
- JetSpiegel 4y agoYes, with actual evidence of nothingburgers and undercover agents entrapping other undercover agents, the gravy train would stop.
- bavell 4y agoIt seems to me you're making a lot of assumptions and jumping to conclusions. How do you know these trolls are adults and not angsty teens? How do you know it's not a niche problem (I've only ever seen this cringe behavior in low-effort FPS like CoD)? Not saying you're wrong but your experiences don't match my own. I'm open to having my mind changed but the idea of some conspiracy to influence kids by screaming naziisms at them at the end of video game matches just seems... hilariously ineffective.
- tastyfreeze 4y agoAt least more people are waking up to the real problem here.