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Perhaps people have been seeking a more generational leap but from the footage you are correct, they just iterated on top of what worked, and likely have thousa

Perhaps people have been seeking a more generational leap but from the footage you are correct, they just iterated on top of what worked, and likely have thousands of hours of insight into what sells. I was hoping that they would at least upgrade the graphic side of the things, it does seem like from this video, that it could easily be just another DLC. Think after I saw that Matrix demo from Unreal Engine, that trend would carry on into city roaming sandbox games. Still can't wait to pick up this game in 2 to 3 years when all the bugs are fixed and they have a discount.

kennywinker 4y ago
With Moore's law over, I wouldn't expect huge leaps and bounds in graphics again any time soon. Expect incremental improvement, and honing in on the details that matter to immersion. I for one find graphics "good enough" for the most part, and I'd would rather the budget go into NPC AI, character movement, and storytelling.
- oefnak 4y ago
  Why would you think Moore's law is over?
  - kennywinker 4y ago
    Because people in the know have been saying it’s dead for a while. E.g. https://www.technologyreview.com/2016/05/13/245938/moores-law-is-dead-now-what/ https://www.technologyreview.com/2016/05/13/245938/moores-la... https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/moores-law-is-dead-nvidias-ceo-jensen-huang-says-at-ces-2019/ https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/moores-law-is-dead-nvidi...
- sebzim4500 4y ago
  Moore's law has been 'over' for ages, it hasn't stopped video games graphics improving substantially between console generations.
  - kennywinker 4y ago
    Ages? I think it was about 2016 when people started credibly saying it’s over. So, that’s 8 years ago, which is about how long i think it took for the high end to trickle down to affordable. The graphics difference between a ps4 and a ps5 are… noticeable, but not shocking, and they were released in 2013 and 2020 respectively.
    - ecuaflo 4y ago
      kenny living in 2024
      - kennywinker 4y ago
        lol, good point. 6 years.
    - sigmoid10 4y ago
      Graphics between an end-of-life and a new next-gen console are a bad comparison. Late PS3 and early PS4 games also saw only small improvements. But compare early PS3 to late PS4 titles and the differences are staggering. The PS5 has about an order of magnitude more processing power than the base PS4 and Moore's law states that computing power doubles every two years, which means it gains an order of magnitude every 6 or 7 years - which is precisely the time frame between the PS4 and PS5 release. Moore's law definitely isn't dead and the new console generation proves it.
      - kennywinker 4y ago
        > The PS5 has about an order of magnitude more processing power than the base PS4 and Moore's law states that computing power doubles every two years, which means it gains an order of magnitude every 6 or 7 years That's not what moore's law is. Moore's law says that TRANSISTOR COUNT will double every 2 years. > Moore's law is the observation that the number of transistors in a dense integrated circuit (IC) doubles about every two years - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore%27s_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore%27s_law Back to the ps4 and ps5: > Each of the PS5’s CUs has roughly 60 percent more transistors - https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/ps4-vs-ps5/ https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/ps4-vs-ps5/ From the same page, the original PS4 had 18 CUs, the PS5 has 36 CUs. So if the PS4's transistor count is (n x 18), the PS5's transistor count is (n x 38 x 1/0.6) = (n x 63.3333) - which is only 3.5x If moore's law had held you'd expect a multiple of 8 or 16, not 3.5. Moore's law is dead, and the new console generation proves it.

kennywinker 4y ago

With Moore's law over, I wouldn't expect huge leaps and bounds in graphics again any time soon. Expect incremental improvement, and honing in on the details that matter to immersion. I for one find graphics "good enough" for the most part, and I'd would rather the budget go into NPC AI, character movement, and storytelling.

oefnak 4y ago
Why would you think Moore's law is over?
- kennywinker 4y ago
  Because people in the know have been saying it’s dead for a while. E.g. https://www.technologyreview.com/2016/05/13/245938/moores-law-is-dead-now-what/ https://www.technologyreview.com/2016/05/13/245938/moores-la... https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/moores-law-is-dead-nvidias-ceo-jensen-huang-says-at-ces-2019/ https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/moores-law-is-dead-nvidi...
sebzim4500 4y ago
Moore's law has been 'over' for ages, it hasn't stopped video games graphics improving substantially between console generations.
- kennywinker 4y ago
  Ages? I think it was about 2016 when people started credibly saying it’s over. So, that’s 8 years ago, which is about how long i think it took for the high end to trickle down to affordable. The graphics difference between a ps4 and a ps5 are… noticeable, but not shocking, and they were released in 2013 and 2020 respectively.
  - ecuaflo 4y ago
    kenny living in 2024
    - kennywinker 4y ago
      lol, good point. 6 years.
  - sigmoid10 4y ago
    Graphics between an end-of-life and a new next-gen console are a bad comparison. Late PS3 and early PS4 games also saw only small improvements. But compare early PS3 to late PS4 titles and the differences are staggering. The PS5 has about an order of magnitude more processing power than the base PS4 and Moore's law states that computing power doubles every two years, which means it gains an order of magnitude every 6 or 7 years - which is precisely the time frame between the PS4 and PS5 release. Moore's law definitely isn't dead and the new console generation proves it.
    - kennywinker 4y ago
      > The PS5 has about an order of magnitude more processing power than the base PS4 and Moore's law states that computing power doubles every two years, which means it gains an order of magnitude every 6 or 7 years That's not what moore's law is. Moore's law says that TRANSISTOR COUNT will double every 2 years. > Moore's law is the observation that the number of transistors in a dense integrated circuit (IC) doubles about every two years - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore%27s_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore%27s_law Back to the ps4 and ps5: > Each of the PS5’s CUs has roughly 60 percent more transistors - https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/ps4-vs-ps5/ https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/ps4-vs-ps5/ From the same page, the original PS4 had 18 CUs, the PS5 has 36 CUs. So if the PS4's transistor count is (n x 18), the PS5's transistor count is (n x 38 x 1/0.6) = (n x 63.3333) - which is only 3.5x If moore's law had held you'd expect a multiple of 8 or 16, not 3.5. Moore's law is dead, and the new console generation proves it.