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I don't see how it's a shame. How does it ruin anything at all? I think it's extremely weird how we're so deferential to the PR departments of these billion dol

by Sakos 4y ago

I don't see how it's a shame. How does it ruin anything at all? I think it's extremely weird how we're so deferential to the PR departments of these billion dollar companies. It's not like the video puts it in a bad light either. It's just footage of development, which is the type of stuff that never gets out after a game is released and is important for historical preservation. Honestly, I'm tired of companies being so tight-lipped about game development in general, so seeing something like this is awesome.

oxff 4y ago
My thoughts too.
ErneX 4y ago
Read this thread: https://twitter.com/charalanahzard/status/1571415201546924038 https://twitter.com/charalanahzard/status/157141520154692403...
- m1gu3l 4y ago
  - ErneX 4y ago
    Feel free to disagree but imo she's right. GTA makes billions yes, but it's people working on those games, they want their work to be seen the best way possible not because someone got into their systems and decided to leak it. Specially with games like this with years of development.
    - permo-w 4y ago
      do you genuinely think that coders for gta VI are going to care that their work got seen before it was finished? how vain do you think these people are?
      - ErneX 4y ago
        Of course they care, this is bad for the devs and the company: https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1571489679534608384 https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1571489679534608384
        permo-w 4y ago
        you seem to have an odd habit of posting twitter threads as justifications for arguments
    - MichaelCollins 4y ago
      I don't think she's right; she says leaks are awful for excited fans but I'm an excited fan and it's not awful for me. She's speaking in sweeping generalities, speaking for people who aren't her. This video didn't give me any expectations for GTA VI that weren't already obvious; e.g. it will be a 3rd person game where I can commit crimes.
- DonHopkins 4y ago
  A leak?!? Oh my! Butler, fetch me my fainting couch post haste -- I do think I am becoming overwhelmed with a case of the vapours! The original Star Wars wouldn't be Star Wars without all the behind-the-scenes photos and film they "leaked". As I a kid, and still now, I cherish that stuff, and it makes the franchise so much more valuable. https://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/star-wars-behind-scenes/ https://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/star-wars-behin...
ErneX 4y ago
Bungie had some of their staff doxxed and threatened, so I kind of understand why they just decide to not share stuff ahead of time: https://www.polygon.com/23282211/bungie-destiny-2-communication-threats-developers-reddit https://www.polygon.com/23282211/bungie-destiny-2-communicat...
- password1 4y ago
  People on twitter are already sharing Linkedin profiles of employees connected to the recorded videos, asking for more or acting like they found the leaker. Which is absolutely idiotic since the video were stolen from Slack and the people who recorded them have nothing to do with the leak.
KVFinn 4y ago
Might take a few months of dev time just dealing with the legal and security issues from the source code getting hacked, games use a ton of middleware from many different companies. >The guy with the data/source code for that game is just on forums taking requests like a reddit AMA, searching the source code then pulling up what people ask for. One guy just asked him to send him some code related to an ongoing court case vs TTI, and he just did it. >Turns out the guy asking him to scour the source code is one of the GTA5 cheat makers R*/TTI is suing lmao. https://twitter.com/APZonerunner/status/1571411248390242307 https://twitter.com/APZonerunner/status/1571411248390242307 >I don't see how it's a shame. How does it ruin anything at all?
cm2187 4y ago
Also the main commercial reason to keep secrecy is to not cannibalise your existing products by creating an expectation that if the customer holds on a little more on a purchase..., but gta5 is almost 10 years old now. As for the environment, the videos I looked at don't reveal much anyway.

by Sakos 4y ago

oxff 4y ago

My thoughts too.

ErneX 4y ago

Read this thread: https://twitter.com/charalanahzard/status/1571415201546924038 https://twitter.com/charalanahzard/status/157141520154692403...

m1gu3l 4y ago
- ErneX 4y ago
  Feel free to disagree but imo she's right. GTA makes billions yes, but it's people working on those games, they want their work to be seen the best way possible not because someone got into their systems and decided to leak it. Specially with games like this with years of development.
  - permo-w 4y ago
    do you genuinely think that coders for gta VI are going to care that their work got seen before it was finished? how vain do you think these people are?
    - ErneX 4y ago
      Of course they care, this is bad for the devs and the company: https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1571489679534608384 https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1571489679534608384
      - permo-w 4y ago
        you seem to have an odd habit of posting twitter threads as justifications for arguments
  - MichaelCollins 4y ago
    I don't think she's right; she says leaks are awful for excited fans but I'm an excited fan and it's not awful for me. She's speaking in sweeping generalities, speaking for people who aren't her. This video didn't give me any expectations for GTA VI that weren't already obvious; e.g. it will be a 3rd person game where I can commit crimes.
DonHopkins 4y ago
A leak?!? Oh my! Butler, fetch me my fainting couch post haste -- I do think I am becoming overwhelmed with a case of the vapours! The original Star Wars wouldn't be Star Wars without all the behind-the-scenes photos and film they "leaked". As I a kid, and still now, I cherish that stuff, and it makes the franchise so much more valuable. https://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/star-wars-behind-scenes/ https://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/star-wars-behin...

ErneX 4y ago

Bungie had some of their staff doxxed and threatened, so I kind of understand why they just decide to not share stuff ahead of time: https://www.polygon.com/23282211/bungie-destiny-2-communication-threats-developers-reddit https://www.polygon.com/23282211/bungie-destiny-2-communicat...

password1 4y ago
People on twitter are already sharing Linkedin profiles of employees connected to the recorded videos, asking for more or acting like they found the leaker. Which is absolutely idiotic since the video were stolen from Slack and the people who recorded them have nothing to do with the leak.

KVFinn 4y ago

Might take a few months of dev time just dealing with the legal and security issues from the source code getting hacked, games use a ton of middleware from many different companies. >The guy with the data/source code for that game is just on forums taking requests like a reddit AMA, searching the source code then pulling up what people ask for. One guy just asked him to send him some code related to an ongoing court case vs TTI, and he just did it. >Turns out the guy asking him to scour the source code is one of the GTA5 cheat makers R*/TTI is suing lmao. https://twitter.com/APZonerunner/status/1571411248390242307 https://twitter.com/APZonerunner/status/1571411248390242307 >I don't see how it's a shame. How does it ruin anything at all?

cm2187 4y ago

Also the main commercial reason to keep secrecy is to not cannibalise your existing products by creating an expectation that if the customer holds on a little more on a purchase..., but gta5 is almost 10 years old now. As for the environment, the videos I looked at don't reveal much anyway.