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No. Hate-speech is illegal, not a "viewpoint we don't agree with". Your restaurant analogy falls short too. Dress-code is the equivalent of "civility" in discu

No. Hate-speech is illegal, not a "viewpoint we don't agree with". Your restaurant analogy falls short too. Dress-code is the equivalent of "civility" in discussion, and is a neutral bar that is set. It doesn't favor cotton shirts over linen shirts, which is what censoring a viewpoint would be.

galaxyLogic 4y ago
> No. Hate-speech is illegal Is hate-speech illegal in USA? What statutes are you thinking of? I thought hate-speech was mostly allowed to exist as "free speech". The question however is should social media companies not have the right to determine what THEY think is hate-speech, and thus not share it? If hate-speech is vaguely defined then somebody has to make the decision as to what is or is not it, and whether to spread it online or not. Who better to make that decision than the companies whose business it affects, whether they share hate-speech or don't?
- exodust 4y ago
  Yeh sorry, I forgot USA doesn't have hate-speech laws. I'm in Australia where hate-speech is technically illegal. To be hate speech, it needs to be a clear attack on someone using derogatory terms that target things like gender or religion. I don't think there's been many cases here involving hate speech. More likely people will pursue defamation and discrimination laws. Many disagree that to be merely "offended" is not enough to establish a crime. Our hate-speech laws are not universally accepted as good laws. The problem with social media companies deciding what is hate-speech, is they will get it wrong often. The moderator is human. They might be personally associated with a position or viewpoint in their own lives outside of work. They might decide to delete a post that presents a strong case against whatever position they align with, leading to an offended moderator. An offended moderator may not apply the same fairness in all situations. Too many grey areas.
  - galaxyLogic 4y ago
    Moderators often make me angry as well. But I don't know if there is a better solution for preventing bad things from being spread on online forums. I've read that Trump's Truth Social doesn't much moderate their content but maybe they do block the truth, who knows? :-) .

galaxyLogic 4y ago

> No. Hate-speech is illegal Is hate-speech illegal in USA? What statutes are you thinking of? I thought hate-speech was mostly allowed to exist as "free speech". The question however is should social media companies not have the right to determine what THEY think is hate-speech, and thus not share it? If hate-speech is vaguely defined then somebody has to make the decision as to what is or is not it, and whether to spread it online or not. Who better to make that decision than the companies whose business it affects, whether they share hate-speech or don't?

exodust 4y ago
Yeh sorry, I forgot USA doesn't have hate-speech laws. I'm in Australia where hate-speech is technically illegal. To be hate speech, it needs to be a clear attack on someone using derogatory terms that target things like gender or religion. I don't think there's been many cases here involving hate speech. More likely people will pursue defamation and discrimination laws. Many disagree that to be merely "offended" is not enough to establish a crime. Our hate-speech laws are not universally accepted as good laws. The problem with social media companies deciding what is hate-speech, is they will get it wrong often. The moderator is human. They might be personally associated with a position or viewpoint in their own lives outside of work. They might decide to delete a post that presents a strong case against whatever position they align with, leading to an offended moderator. An offended moderator may not apply the same fairness in all situations. Too many grey areas.
- galaxyLogic 4y ago
  Moderators often make me angry as well. But I don't know if there is a better solution for preventing bad things from being spread on online forums. I've read that Trump's Truth Social doesn't much moderate their content but maybe they do block the truth, who knows? :-) .