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All very true, but at the risk of laboring the point, a legal person is not a person, just like a sperm bank is not a bank. A noun phrase is not necessarily a s

All very true, but at the risk of laboring the point, a legal person is not a person, just like a sperm bank is not a bank. A noun phrase is not necessarily a sub-category of the original noun. This is underlined by the use of the plural “legal persons”, rather “legal people” which is usually reserved for meat sacks with law degrees.

Kamq 4y ago
> A noun phrase is not necessarily a sub-category of the original noun. This is actually something I had not fully considered. I had always considered odd modifiers to create a non-central example of the category, rather than creating a new category. To take your example of a sperm bank, I had always considered that to be a kind of generalized version of a bank. A general "place you can deposit things for future use". Do you have any other good examples? I'm gonna have to let this roll around in my head for a bit to see what the implications are.
- droidist2 4y ago
  One confounding factor is that some words have multiple meanings or connotations. A "bank" doesn't have to be a financial bank. Or sometimes names can be chained together, like maybe "sperm bank" is based on "food bank" or "seed bank".
  - Kamq 4y ago
    Alright, so I finally went and checked, and (according to merriam webster), the following definitions of "bank" are reasonably commonly used (none marked with archaic or obscure). > a supply of something held in reserve > a place where something is held available (especially : a depot for the collection and storage of a biological product) Both of which fit food bank, seed bank, and sperm bank. Which means that a sperm bank probably is properly a bank, although used without qualification, most people probably mean money bank (or are being intentionally ambiguous to avoid the stigma of needing a food bank/going to a sperm bank).

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All very true, but at the risk of laboring the point, a legal person is not a person, just like a sperm bank is not a bank. A noun phrase is not necessarily a s

by zarzavat 4y ago

Kamq 4y ago
> A noun phrase is not necessarily a sub-category of the original noun. This is actually something I had not fully considered. I had always considered odd modifiers to create a non-central example of the category, rather than creating a new category. To take your example of a sperm bank, I had always considered that to be a kind of generalized version of a bank. A general "place you can deposit things for future use". Do you have any other good examples? I'm gonna have to let this roll around in my head for a bit to see what the implications are.
- droidist2 4y ago
  One confounding factor is that some words have multiple meanings or connotations. A "bank" doesn't have to be a financial bank. Or sometimes names can be chained together, like maybe "sperm bank" is based on "food bank" or "seed bank".
  - Kamq 4y ago
    Alright, so I finally went and checked, and (according to merriam webster), the following definitions of "bank" are reasonably commonly used (none marked with archaic or obscure). > a supply of something held in reserve > a place where something is held available (especially : a depot for the collection and storage of a biological product) Both of which fit food bank, seed bank, and sperm bank. Which means that a sperm bank probably is properly a bank, although used without qualification, most people probably mean money bank (or are being intentionally ambiguous to avoid the stigma of needing a food bank/going to a sperm bank).