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> But Scala and lots of other programming languages use ":" with no hindrance to adoption. It's kind of weird to see you assert that with no attempt to establi

> But Scala and lots of other programming languages use ":" with no hindrance to adoption. It's kind of weird to see you assert that with no attempt to establish its truth when Scala is something like... the ~20th most popular language? Whereas Python, C, C++, Java, VB, C#, etc. are right at the top. So either this is one of the (obviously many) factors hindering wider adoption of Scala, in which case the relative popularity is entirely consistent with this, or it isn't a factor, in which case the it would make sense to present at least some evidence to the contrary given that your assertion goes against the popularity rankings. > Also consider this: lots of hugely frequent characters and symbols that don't require SHIFT in EN-US keyboards do in other keyboards layouts, for example Spanish. So this cannot be a consideration, at least not a major one. I'm pretty sure the popularity of {most software technologies} outside the US and inside the US are very far from being independent variables.

the_af 4y ago
> It's kind of weird to see you assert that with no attempt to establish its truth when Scala is something like... the ~20th most popular language? Whereas Python, C, C++, Java, VB, C#, etc. are right at the top The barrier to adoption of Scala has to do its functional programming side, as well as its complex libraries and types. Kotlin also uses ": type" syntax, by the way. As does Python! > I'm pretty sure the popularity of {most software technologies} outside the US and inside the US are very far from being independent variables. It's hard to understand your point. Are you arguing that programming languages are less popular outside the US? Or "most software technologies"? So let's sum it up: SHIFT concerns are very minor in comparison to other programming language ergonomics (in which need I remind you, C++ never fared very well), and the ": type" syntax is very common and mainstream in programming languages, with no hindrance to adoption.

the_af 4y ago

> It's kind of weird to see you assert that with no attempt to establish its truth when Scala is something like... the ~20th most popular language? Whereas Python, C, C++, Java, VB, C#, etc. are right at the top The barrier to adoption of Scala has to do its functional programming side, as well as its complex libraries and types. Kotlin also uses ": type" syntax, by the way. As does Python! > I'm pretty sure the popularity of {most software technologies} outside the US and inside the US are very far from being independent variables. It's hard to understand your point. Are you arguing that programming languages are less popular outside the US? Or "most software technologies"? So let's sum it up: SHIFT concerns are very minor in comparison to other programming language ergonomics (in which need I remind you, C++ never fared very well), and the ": type" syntax is very common and mainstream in programming languages, with no hindrance to adoption.