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I have to say the fact that I was able to figure out how the puzzle worked - what I was meant to do - with no instructions in about 60 seconds is a good sign.
by windowshopping 4y ago
I have to say the fact that I was able to figure out how the puzzle worked - what I was meant to do - with no instructions in about 60 seconds is a good sign.
I'm also immediately kind of addicted to this....I really like it.
The one thing that annoys me is that I can't see what a symbol is if the dog/bunny is on it because it's covered up. It's hard to remember when there's so many. Some transparency or slight design adjustment would fix this easily.
- quickthrower2 4y agoI also like that you can make a few mistakes and still solve it.
- perihelions 4y agoAre there even any dead states?
- quickthrower2 4y agoYes. From beginning: Dog right, dog right, dog up.
- runxel 4y agoAnd you have to reload the page then... Should have been a "back" button or smth!
- 7thaccount 4y agoOh yeah, I had to reset once lol. It has to do with getting a couple of characters stuck in the arrow trap without being able to get someone on a tree to escape...I think
- starkd 4y agoNot sure what I am missing. But all the possible moves lead to dead states. That being said, not sure what the transition labels mean. "Somebody at bone", "Somebody at carrot" or "nobody at bone" means nothing to me. I suspect there's another game that I don't know about that would provide the context.
- Jtsummers 4y agoIt's entirely self-contained. "Bone" is a node in the graph, put either a bunny or dog on the bone and that "somebody at bone" path will be enabled because its condition will be enabled.
- tomerv 4y agoThe path with that label is blocked unless the condition is fulfilled. I don't think it relies on any prior knowledge (at least nothing specific I can think of)
- starkd 4y agoahhh ok. It is a precondition. That helps!
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- Beltiras 4y agoI second the UX of clearer way of showing the icon the player pieces are on. I don't know if transparency is the way to go. Maybe the shape of the node can differ.
- benj111 4y agoColour coding?
- somedude895 4y agoI didn't understand the conditions at first. I think it would be good to have visual feedback on what the issue is when trying to make a forbidden move, e.g. trying to move through "somebody at Carrot", the condition and the Carrot field should be highlighted together.
- lloeki 4y agoHaving a knack for these, I found these "lack" of hints (understanding goal, covered tiles, no precondition failed) to be part of the game, and making deduction/memory work for it. There was just enough for me to understand it. Had these hints been there I'd have been bored rather quickly.
- qwertox 4y agoI agree. It's similar to how Doom was initially whereas now every game is filled with explanations.
- MattRix 4y agoThat might be because most modern games are much more complicated than Doom. It’s also possible that modern game designers don’t want people to abandon the game before having a chance to really get what the core of it is about. Don’t get me wrong, there is still a place for games with mystery and obscure mechanics etc, but it doesn’t make sense for most games to be like that. It’s just an unnecessary way to keep away players that would otherwise love the game.
- drdec 4y agoI think that it is also that there are more resources for in-game help on modern hardware.
- hyperhopper 4y agoBut there is a difference between a subtle hint and the MegaMan/navi style "hey listen! Here are several paragraphs to read" Play through portal with developer commentary, that's a masterpiece on how to use hints well without players even realizing. Things like how hallways are structured, where light is shining, etc.
- eequah9L 4y ago> The one thing that annoys me is that I can't see what a symbol is In a similar vein, when both dog and bunny are on one field, I can't choose which one to pick up.
- baq 4y agoIf you’re fast enough you can pick up one, drop somewhere and pick up the other when the first one is animating back.
- 83457 4y agoThis is the way. Moving also reveals the location they are on, if obscured.
- alexvoda 4y agoDidn't realize that was possible. I thought they were never supposed to meet and solved as such.
- etrautmann 4y agoI love this - also had a hard time with remembering covered icons. Perhaps a tiny offset of the dog/bunny, or even a size difference would help.
- 7thaccount 4y agoTook me about 2 minutes to figure out how to successfully move and quite a few more to fully solve it. A lot of fun!
- dalbasal 4y agoYes. I didn't get it. Hated it. Then got it. Completed it. Now I love it. Sign of a good puzzle... though the frustration/challenge balance is on a knife's edge with this game. Overall, yeah. It has the feel of a clever, loveable game... how it comes together. Great work. I love these postings. Very artistic.
- drcode 4y agoHonest question: What kind of design change would you make? I am struggling to think of a good solution that doesn't involve making pieces smaller, which I don't want to do. One option is that a subtle version of the location image pops up next to the location space if it is occupied
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- josephpmay 4y agoMaybe change the animal picture to have them holding the item in their mouth?
- maxloh 4y agoBeing able to move all animals in the same circle. Right now you could only move the upper one.
- dynamite-ready 4y agoJust display the animals side by side, when they sit on the same node.
- PebblesRox 4y agoIt would be fun to have the characters integrate with the node images, as if you are dropping them into little worlds. E.g. when you move a rabbit to the boat node, the boat now has a little rabbit poking out of it. It would be similar to those combined emojis [0] I recognize that this is a really bad idea from a usability/discoverability perspective, but wouldn't it be charming! [0] https://emojikitchen.dev/ https://emojikitchen.dev/