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>... they're amateur only in the sense that a national quality producer and engineer and studio probably wasn't involved, but probably recorded in the proverbia

>... they're amateur only in the sense that a national quality producer and engineer and studio probably wasn't involved, but probably recorded in the proverbial garage, except actually at a "pro" studio, in the sense that was a studio, and it cost them something, maybe $15-$30/hour, as opposed to $800/hour, or whatever places like Abbey Road Studios charge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reciprocal_Recording https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reciprocal_Recording

SyneRyder 4y ago
And as for cost, the back of the original Bleach CD famously mentions "Recorded in Seattle at Reciprocal Recording by Jack Endino for $600." As a kid/teenager, Nevermind was always the better record over Bleach, but the idea of getting a major label deal & a slick producer & a $50,000 budget were all completely impossibly unattainable. But that line about just $600 to make Bleach... that was inspiring. That was an amount I could conceivably save up for. It made the idea of making an album yourself seem possible, reachable.
- Maursault 4y ago
  Nirvana and Nevermind, as two distinct extremely valuable entitles, not only got SubPop out of debt, but probably paid for every subsequent SupPop promotion and record deal, and I wouldn't doubt, still paying. The idea that Nirvana "sold out" and left SubPop hanging isn't really accurate. SubPop held Nirvana's contract.[1] Geffen likely paid for everyones' lawyers, and everyone was happy. Which reminds me that the Beastie Boys, as individuals, made a higher percentage of their record sales and catalog rights than any individual band member before or since because they each made one of the other group members their official manager, which is no longer legal. [1] https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/sub-pop-posts-nirvanas-original-contract-91989/ https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/sub-pop-posts-...

SyneRyder 4y ago

And as for cost, the back of the original Bleach CD famously mentions "Recorded in Seattle at Reciprocal Recording by Jack Endino for $600." As a kid/teenager, Nevermind was always the better record over Bleach, but the idea of getting a major label deal & a slick producer & a $50,000 budget were all completely impossibly unattainable. But that line about just $600 to make Bleach... that was inspiring. That was an amount I could conceivably save up for. It made the idea of making an album yourself seem possible, reachable.

Maursault 4y ago
Nirvana and Nevermind, as two distinct extremely valuable entitles, not only got SubPop out of debt, but probably paid for every subsequent SupPop promotion and record deal, and I wouldn't doubt, still paying. The idea that Nirvana "sold out" and left SubPop hanging isn't really accurate. SubPop held Nirvana's contract.[1] Geffen likely paid for everyones' lawyers, and everyone was happy. Which reminds me that the Beastie Boys, as individuals, made a higher percentage of their record sales and catalog rights than any individual band member before or since because they each made one of the other group members their official manager, which is no longer legal. [1] https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/sub-pop-posts-nirvanas-original-contract-91989/ https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/sub-pop-posts-...