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I wish there was a CC mode for “I’m not deaf, I just don’t catch the quiet mumbly dialog sometimes so give me captions only of the dialog.” Bonus if it’s delay

I wish there was a CC mode for “I’m not deaf, I just don’t catch the quiet mumbly dialog sometimes so give me captions only of the dialog.” Bonus if it’s delayed by exactly 2 seconds, so that it doesn’t spoil jokes, and I can quickly reference it if I missed something someone said (helping me avoid fixating on the captions.) Because it’s the CC descriptions of music swells and things like “[laughs] and “[crying]”, etc that are distracting for me, and not needed. What’s worse, sometimes they ruin comedic timing by putting the punchline on the screen before the setup has finished (or logical equivalent of a punchline… comedy is often found in timing) and the captions ruin the timing.

ericbarrett 4y ago
There is on some shows. For those the choice is between "English" and "English [CC]" or similar; the former omits descriptions of noises. Most don't have this, probably because it's not provided by the producers. Agreed on timing issues. This also seems to vary by show/producer.
- generalizations 4y ago
  VLC lets you adjust the timing of the closed captions. It's totally possible to set a delay of 2 sec.
  - FabHK 4y ago
    H/J to decrease/increase subtitle delay.
runarberg 4y ago
There usually is (but not always). It is something like English vs English [for hearing impaired]. As a non-native English speaker I’m used to watching most television and movies with subtitles. The extra sound descriptions don’t bother me too much actually. Sometimes it is kind of funny actually, it is a running joke in my home to count the times a show has [ominous music].
Sylamore 4y ago
Roku with captions on replay is my goto way of dealing with muddy dialog
ajhurliman 4y ago
That’s the difference between subtitles and closed captions: one is for people who don’t speak that language but can hear in general, the other is for people who can’t hear at all.
pritambaral 4y ago
> Bonus if it’s delayed by exactly 2 seconds, so that it doesn’t spoil jokes, and I can quickly reference it if I missed something someone said (helping me avoid fixating on the captions.) This is the exact reason why I vastly prefer playing media on my own media player. I have it set to always delay subtitles by exactly 2 seconds. I even have the font overridden to use a nice geometric sans (Josefin Sans, to be exact); subtitles with bitmap fonts (like they are on DVD and Blu-ray) are disabled outright. Every time there's a new person watching something with me, they comment on the subtitle delay. It usually starts with a complaint that the subs are off-sync. Never had someone (yet) stick to that complaint though, after this explanation. But, nobody I've met has previously recognised a need for such a delay, either. Until they watch something with me, of course.
flotzam 4y ago
mpv --sub-filter-sdh [--sub-filter-sdh-harder] --sub-delay=2 https://mpv.io/manual/master/#options-sub-filter-sdh https://mpv.io/manual/master/#options-sub-filter-sdh
- thomastjeffery 4y ago
  If only I could pipe Netflix or HBO through mpv. Stallman was right yet again.
sprkwd 4y ago
[whooshing intensifies]
capableweb 4y ago
> Bonus if it’s delayed by exactly 2 seconds, so that it doesn’t spoil jokes, and I can quickly reference it if I missed something someone said (helping me avoid fixating on the captions.) I think that'd ruin me more than not having subtitles at all, because I just get stuck at reading the subtitles all the time if they are on (which, I have on 99% of the time). I go so far to avoid content that doesn't have subtitles. What I'd love to have, would be a "speed-reading" version of subtitles, that just show each word individually as it's spoken (or maybe two/three) instead of the full sentence. That way it can still be in sync, while not ruining punchlines. Would be a real hassle to actually write/make the subtitles though, but with all the AI/ML around today, there is probably a way to automate it.
- smeej 4y ago
  3Play Media's format could do this. Their output is usually a transcript where you can click on any word and it will take you to that second of the video. The software they've developed for the people who create the captions does go second by second as well. I don't know if they've ever considered having that as a display option. They're just one of the only companies I can think of for whom it wouldn't involve a whole rethinking of how they create the captions.
BLKNSLVR 4y ago
[pants] is my favourite. I'm waiting for [t-shirt] but it never arrives.
autoexec 4y ago
> Because it’s the CC descriptions of music swells and things like “[laughs] and “[crying]”, etc that are distracting for me, and not needed. This drives me nuts too, especially when they're being subjective and I'm asking myself things like 'Was that music really "ominous"? Didn't seem that way...' Another thing that bugs me is when captions reveal a character's name to indicate who is speaking when the name of that character hasn't actually been revealed in the story yet.

ericbarrett 4y ago

There is on some shows. For those the choice is between "English" and "English [CC]" or similar; the former omits descriptions of noises. Most don't have this, probably because it's not provided by the producers. Agreed on timing issues. This also seems to vary by show/producer.

generalizations 4y ago
VLC lets you adjust the timing of the closed captions. It's totally possible to set a delay of 2 sec.
- FabHK 4y ago
  H/J to decrease/increase subtitle delay.

runarberg 4y ago

There usually is (but not always). It is something like English vs English [for hearing impaired]. As a non-native English speaker I’m used to watching most television and movies with subtitles. The extra sound descriptions don’t bother me too much actually. Sometimes it is kind of funny actually, it is a running joke in my home to count the times a show has [ominous music].

Sylamore 4y ago

Roku with captions on replay is my goto way of dealing with muddy dialog

ajhurliman 4y ago

That’s the difference between subtitles and closed captions: one is for people who don’t speak that language but can hear in general, the other is for people who can’t hear at all.

pritambaral 4y ago

> Bonus if it’s delayed by exactly 2 seconds, so that it doesn’t spoil jokes, and I can quickly reference it if I missed something someone said (helping me avoid fixating on the captions.) This is the exact reason why I vastly prefer playing media on my own media player. I have it set to always delay subtitles by exactly 2 seconds. I even have the font overridden to use a nice geometric sans (Josefin Sans, to be exact); subtitles with bitmap fonts (like they are on DVD and Blu-ray) are disabled outright. Every time there's a new person watching something with me, they comment on the subtitle delay. It usually starts with a complaint that the subs are off-sync. Never had someone (yet) stick to that complaint though, after this explanation. But, nobody I've met has previously recognised a need for such a delay, either. Until they watch something with me, of course.

flotzam 4y ago

mpv --sub-filter-sdh [--sub-filter-sdh-harder] --sub-delay=2 https://mpv.io/manual/master/#options-sub-filter-sdh https://mpv.io/manual/master/#options-sub-filter-sdh

thomastjeffery 4y ago
If only I could pipe Netflix or HBO through mpv. Stallman was right yet again.

sprkwd 4y ago

[whooshing intensifies]

capableweb 4y ago

> Bonus if it’s delayed by exactly 2 seconds, so that it doesn’t spoil jokes, and I can quickly reference it if I missed something someone said (helping me avoid fixating on the captions.) I think that'd ruin me more than not having subtitles at all, because I just get stuck at reading the subtitles all the time if they are on (which, I have on 99% of the time). I go so far to avoid content that doesn't have subtitles. What I'd love to have, would be a "speed-reading" version of subtitles, that just show each word individually as it's spoken (or maybe two/three) instead of the full sentence. That way it can still be in sync, while not ruining punchlines. Would be a real hassle to actually write/make the subtitles though, but with all the AI/ML around today, there is probably a way to automate it.

smeej 4y ago
3Play Media's format could do this. Their output is usually a transcript where you can click on any word and it will take you to that second of the video. The software they've developed for the people who create the captions does go second by second as well. I don't know if they've ever considered having that as a display option. They're just one of the only companies I can think of for whom it wouldn't involve a whole rethinking of how they create the captions.

BLKNSLVR 4y ago

[pants] is my favourite. I'm waiting for [t-shirt] but it never arrives.

autoexec 4y ago

> Because it’s the CC descriptions of music swells and things like “[laughs] and “[crying]”, etc that are distracting for me, and not needed. This drives me nuts too, especially when they're being subjective and I'm asking myself things like 'Was that music really "ominous"? Didn't seem that way...' Another thing that bugs me is when captions reveal a character's name to indicate who is speaking when the name of that character hasn't actually been revealed in the story yet.