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It’s a very complicated IQ test. Most people don’t need weed out level college math. But on the whole, those that pass the bar are more intelligent than those

It’s a very complicated IQ test. Most people don’t need weed out level college math. But on the whole, those that pass the bar are more intelligent than those that don’t. Maybe more useful to just take IQ tests to prove credentials than jump through these kind of hoops? Basically none of the “hard” stuff I learned in computer science is part of my career (3rd year physics, linear algebra, etc). But I got to jump those hoops!

atdrummond 4y ago
I went to a math oriented boarding school. When one started school, a test was administered to determine one’s initial math course. Students began their studies in a range of classes from Geometry all the way to MVC/Analysis. Having seen the standardized test scores and GPAs of many thousands of students at this school, and knowing many of these individuals personally, there is, at best, only a weak relationship between their terminal math course and their intelligence. We had kids who started in geometry and received perfect GPAs and SATs and were brilliant. We also had kids who started in Calc 2 or MVC and barely graduated.
zozbot234 4y ago
Every college class is an IQ test, that's pretty much inherent in any sort of post-K12 education. Calculus is just really badly taught and has a misplaced focus on material (like computing closed forms of tricky integrals) that's less and less relevant in the computer age.
elcritch 4y ago
Just because you have a fast computer doesn't mean you don't also need good well tuned software. For computers of the squishy human variety we install this software via learning and practicing. Doing college level maths refines thinking patterns and provides new categories of thinking. Even if you never take a limit or solve a system of equations directly, you know the concepts of them and they can deepen your understanding of many problems.

atdrummond 4y ago

I went to a math oriented boarding school. When one started school, a test was administered to determine one’s initial math course. Students began their studies in a range of classes from Geometry all the way to MVC/Analysis. Having seen the standardized test scores and GPAs of many thousands of students at this school, and knowing many of these individuals personally, there is, at best, only a weak relationship between their terminal math course and their intelligence. We had kids who started in geometry and received perfect GPAs and SATs and were brilliant. We also had kids who started in Calc 2 or MVC and barely graduated.

zozbot234 4y ago

Every college class is an IQ test, that's pretty much inherent in any sort of post-K12 education. Calculus is just really badly taught and has a misplaced focus on material (like computing closed forms of tricky integrals) that's less and less relevant in the computer age.

elcritch 4y ago

Just because you have a fast computer doesn't mean you don't also need good well tuned software. For computers of the squishy human variety we install this software via learning and practicing. Doing college level maths refines thinking patterns and provides new categories of thinking. Even if you never take a limit or solve a system of equations directly, you know the concepts of them and they can deepen your understanding of many problems.