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C++98 is the reason Java came to power.

• rramadass 4y ago
  No; Java's success is entirely due to Marketing.
  • bb88 4y ago
    Oh no. I was there. Cross platform C++ was hard. Cross platform Java was easy.
    • rramadass 4y ago
      That wasn't it; There was nothing revolutionary about it. It was the most hyped/marketed language in History[1]. Sun threw ungodly amounts of money to market it and make it what it is today. Invented as a "Embedded Systems" language, pushed as a Browser "Applet" language, moved to "Server App" language and settled as a "Enterprise App" language. [1] https://www.theregister.com/2003/06/09/sun_preps_500m_java_brand/ https://www.theregister.com/2003/06/09/sun_preps_500m_java_b...
      • enjoy-your-stay 4y ago
        I think the fact that it eventually ended up as a server app language took everybody by surprise - Sun never saw it as anything like that at inception I'm sure. Adding JDBC and later nio is probably what got it there the most.
        • bb88 4y ago
          Yes. It was originally meant to be used for interactive television. It then transitioned to the web and to cross platform GUI's. It then transitioned to servers.
        • pjmlp 4y ago
          And rewriting Distributed Objects Anywhere from OpenSTEP/Objective-C into Java EE.
  • bitcharmer 4y ago
    > Java's success is entirely due to Marketing. Congratulations, this is the stupidest thing I have read this week. Of course the 20 years of enormous popularity and huge success in multiple industries must be due to marketing. I mean, what else.
    • rramadass 4y ago
      Congratulations, you just proved that you know nothing about why a product succeeds/fails in the market. It was the initial push (with gobs of money) given by Sun that gave Java the momentum. No language was ever pushed so hard in the marketplace by any other organization. Without that push, the language would never have the popularity that it enjoys today. There is nothing inherently "superior" to the Java language. Far better languages have fallen into obscurity because they did not get the publicity (eg. Eiffel) that Java did.
      • Zababa 4y ago
        That is not how logic works. "Better languages with less marketing are less popular than Java" means that "marketing matters" and that "quality isn't everything", not that "only marketing matters".
        • enjoy-your-stay 4y ago
          And step 1 in marketing a new language is a cute mascot, obviously.